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Stocism

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    Stoicism: The Ancient Remedy to the Modern Age

    I’ve been reading about stoicism
    for some time now and I’m fascinated by the utter calmness effect it has on me as well as others. There is a focus about it, a disposability of life’s distractions built into it. Is there something to it that Christian’s can learn from?
     
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    By all means, lets turn to the wisdom of men, and depart from the wisdom of God.

    Is life all about us or about our service to Christ?
     
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    Why do people think that this guy speaks for god… frankly, I dislike him for his pompous self righteous attitudes. He is simply not credible.
     
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    I understand men, God not so much
     
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    “You must stop blaming God, and not blame any person. You must completely control your desire and shift your avoidance to what lies within your reasoned choice. You must no longer feel anger, resentment, envy, or regret.”

    — EPICTETUS, DISCOURSES, 3.22.13

    You Cannot Shift Blame
    You cannot blame god, or any other person, as Epictetus outlines.

    You cannot shift the blame.

    You are the only one responsible for your actions, thoughts and emotions — nobody else.

    Take Control
    You need to take control of your life.

    You cannot shift the blame.

    You cannot wait around and hope somebody else will take control.

    It is entirely your responsibility.

    Your thoughts, emotions and actions are your responsibility.

    You must take control of these 3 important aspects, among many other things too.

    No More….
    • Anger
    • Resentment
    • Envy
    • Regret
    These emotions arise when you fail to take control of yourself.

    These four emotions are incredibly harmful and can have long lasting negative impacts.

    These emotions can be controlled and channeled calmly — this doesn’t happen if you shift blame and fail to take control.



    You need to make a conscious effort to work on these emotions.

    You need to try stop them from arising, and control them if they do.

    You cannot be controlled by these emotions — you control yourself.
     
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    I take what he argued as an option. There are some things believed by Christians not believed by secular Stoicism. The Persons of God and angels and evil spirits.
     
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    I did not say that Stoicism is a replacement for Christianity…merely that it has some good points worthy of discussion and contemplation.
     
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    There is a lot. This philosophy (although secular) corresponds with Scripture. Be anxious for nothing. Be content in all things. Worry will not change anything. Let your character be above reproach. "Be still and know that I am God".
     
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