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Subjugate? No. Love and lead? Yes.

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Dale-c, Jul 26, 2007.

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  1. Dale-c

    Dale-c Active Member

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    It has been suggested that I believe a ton of things that I do not:

    I do not believe that women should be ignorant or uneducated
    I do not believe that women shouldn't be involved in commerce outside the home.
    I do not believe it is always a sin for a woman to have a job.
    I don't think it is wrong for women to wear pants or other non dress-like clothes.
    I do not believe in "subjugating"



    It is a man's job to love and lead his wife.
    It is a woman's job to submit to that leading.

    If a husband is leading, loving and protecting, then it is no one elses business where she works and wears etc.


    If I used poor terms and some misunderstood, I apologize.
     
    #1 Dale-c, Jul 26, 2007
  2. menageriekeeper

    menageriekeeper Active Member

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    Whyn't you copy and paste this into the other thread?
     
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  3. pinoybaptist

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    that's a good suggestion.
     
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  4. Dale-c

    Dale-c Active Member

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    I think I have said all of these things or most of them.....but it seems most skipped over them.
    I thouht maybe this would clear things up better.
     
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  5. Dale-c

    Dale-c Active Member

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    I would like to add a note about women and education.

    My cousin married a man who has a flooring business.
    Her father-in-law owns a carpet store and her husband is a commercial and industrial installer.

    I called once for a friend about contracting him to do a job.
    Rather than her telling me that I would just have to ask him, she told me his schedule and procedures and many others things that were quite helpful.
    You see, she was educated. She completed High School with good grades and went to college. She was pretty smart. She was talented.
    She used her talents and education as a help meet to her husband.
    She made him far greater than he ever could have been.

    Just a potted plant?

    Not hardly!
     
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  6. TCGreek

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    I see nothing wrong with this list. It is to a list like this that I aspire:thumbs: :thumbs:
     
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  7. menageriekeeper

    menageriekeeper Active Member

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    Nice list, but it contradicts what you've been saying in the other thread. I'm copying and pasting(from my post in the other thread):

     
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  8. Dale-c

    Dale-c Active Member

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    She needs to be educated to be a helpmeet to her husband.
    Please read my post up above.


    That isn't exactly "authority"
    Come on.
    I was in training classes all day with women teaching.
    No big deal.

    The problem is, Cindi (or is it Cindy?) that the feminists have managed to paint stereotypes and it is hard for us to say what we believe without people thinking more of what we say that what we really say.
    There is an all out attack on the family structure.

    As Christians we are on the same side in this battle.
    We need to be careful not to let the feminists on one side or the macho male idiots on the other dictate our thinking on the subject.

    You are not my enemy. You are my friend and I hope that we will both learn from this.
     
    #8 Dale-c, Jul 26, 2007
  9. SaggyWoman

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    Wooohooo. Hooootttyyy.
     
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    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
     
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  11. mcdirector

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    Well, I second that Brother Tiny.
     
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  12. menageriekeeper

    menageriekeeper Active Member

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    But yet you wouldn't work for a supervisor who happened to be a woman using her talents and skills in a job that made her a help meet to her husband because she might be working directly under a person not her husband? Let me understand what you are saying: It is okay for a woman to work for her husband in a family owned business but not okay for a woman to use her talents in a job not connected with her husband? Would this even include a woman who was working because her husband was disabled or otherwise unable to work?

    See the danger in linking all women working to feminism and declaring it unholy is that before "feminism", before all the strides in women's rights during the last century, when a woman lost her husband it was extremely hard for her to support herself. There were few exceptions made for women who's husbands couldn't or wouldn't support them. I'm sure that is not something you would want for your wife or your daughter.

    But by linking working women and "feminism" to all the evils of the world as the first thread did, that makes it appear that you had rather live in such an environment! I actually don't believe that you think that way.

    Really? But Paul said he suffered not a woman to teach a man! Are you now willing to say that there might be a difference in how God wants things ordered within the family and church and how they can be ordered in the world?
     
    #12 menageriekeeper, Jul 26, 2007
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