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Tea Party founder - restrict voting rights to property owners

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Matt Black, Dec 7, 2010.

  1. Salty

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    I am in total agreement with you! and that is why Representative get re-elected - they bring home the bacon. Now, I don't pay as much as you in taxes - but I do pay my fair share. And I get pretty upset when I cart a Medicaid patient around on a $ 20-50 taxi ride - one way-. And you and I are paying for it.:tear:
    In 2009 47% of workers paid exactly no income tax. Now what right-wing nutty media reported that? Try NPR! In 2007 - that number was 37%!

    Back to 2009

    Top ----1% paid 38% of all taxes -
    top -2--5% paid 20% of all taxes -
    top -6-10% paid 11% of all taxes -
    top 11-25% paid 17% of all taxes
    top 26-50% paid 13% of all taxes
    top 48-50% paid 02% of all taxes
    & the...47% paid 00% of all taxes

    and you want the rich to pay more! Shame on you.
     
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  2. billwald

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    Salty - you saying everyone grossing $50K is grossly under taxed?
     
  3. Salty

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    47% of wage earners most certianly undertaxed.

    The other 53% pay too much tax!
     
  4. carpro

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    Over 60% of wage earners pay no taxes at all.

    Many of them receive a bonus welfare check from the treasury at tax time that amounts to about $50 billion a year.

    That includes $8-10 billion that goes to fraudulent recipients.
     
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    Please provide us a link to this information.
     
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    Your numbers add up to 101% ... must be a mistake there somewhere.
     
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  7. Matt Black

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    Owing to the downturn, I paid no income tax in the last tax year (in fact I got a rebate, my business was doing so badly). There was a general election earlier this year; according to some here, I should have been prevented from voting.:(

    [ETA - I also claimed welfare support for my family, which I suppose makes it even worse in the eyes of some here; but I was eligible, and I thought, "hey, what the heck, I've paid enough in to the system, it's about time I got something back!")
     
  8. SRBooe

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    The sad thing is that we need to do something to fix this growing problem in America.

    The suggested fixes - either the "Fair Tax" or the "Flat Tax" - would address the problem, but they both would take the carrot-and-stick power away from congressmen to garner votes to some degree. Those people in congress don't want to lose their power of manipulating taxes.

    If taxes were not so socialistic in nature (and that is exactly what a "progressive tax" system is), we would not have to wonder about people who pay no taxes having the power to cause taxes to go up.
     
  9. Robert Snow

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    People like Wade understand, they just don't care. They think the church and family can pay for everything.

    My best friend had a liver transplant a few months ago. The procedure was extremely expensive. Perhaps the church should have had a special offering to raise the half-million dollars he needed.

    It is obvious to anyone who can think that many medical procedures cost way more than most families or churches can give. But, this doesn't matter to many who name the name of Christ. They claim to "love" God, but I fear they love their money more.
     
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    Dig it up yourself. It'll be good for you.:thumbs:

    Should be easy to prove me wrong...if I am.
     
  11. Robert Snow

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    I guess you think laziness is a virtue. If you cannot back up what you say, keep your mouth shut!
     
  12. preachinjesus

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    You're making an unfounded assertion on baseless data.

    The burden of proof is on you not everyone else.

    It's like someone saying: 85% of women in Baptist churches have routine abortions and thus they are hypocrites for being pro-life.

    The burden is on you to provide a link, otherwise we all (as we usually do) disregard your point.
     
  13. carpro

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    Prove it.

    The cost of the earned income tax credit to taxpayers should be easy to verify.

    Why don't you give it a try? I did. Or if you'd rather remain ignorant, go ahead. It's up to you.:thumbs:
     
  14. billwald

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    http://www.barna.org/barna-update/a...ew-study-shows-trends-in-tithing-and-donating

    Barna claims that only 9% of "born again" adults tithe. If the bottom 50% or 60% don't pay any income tax and if poor people are more generous than rich people then if the income tax was totally eliminate how much would charity giving increase? Would as much as 18% of born again Christians tithe? FAT CHANCE!

    And if 80% of born again Christian adults are to cheap to give as little as 10% of their income to help others why does anyone think that medical care could be covered by donations if income taxes were eliminated? Rich non-believers would cover the gap?
     
  15. Salty

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    Could be they are afraid of finding out the truth.

    Another case of liberals not using common sense since you must think to arrive at an answer
     
  16. Earth Wind and Fire

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    So your advocating what?
     
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