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Textual base or textual criticism?

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by Ed Edwards, Mar 25, 2005.

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  1. Bluefalcon

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    I've been saying this for a while on this board but to no avail. Welcome to the BB, TCassidy, glad you're here.

    Yours,

    Bluefalcon
     
    #21 Bluefalcon, Apr 1, 2005
  2. TCassidy

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    Yes. Do we know each other?
     
    #22 TCassidy, Apr 1, 2005
  3. Ed Edwards

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    Aaron has been on this board since Sept 2000.
     
    #23 Ed Edwards, Apr 1, 2005
  4. mioque

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    "He also had access to the readings of Vaticanus copied for him by his friend Paulus Bombasius of Rome."
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    Isn't that reading (singular)? Bombasius only checked Vaticanus for the Johannine Comma and it wasn't there. So even reading may be a bit much.
     
    #24 mioque, Apr 2, 2005
  5. TCassidy

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    Kenyon states Erasmus received "a number of selected readings" from Vaticanus as "proof of its superiority" to the TR. (Our Bible and the Ancient Manuscripts, Fredrick Kenyon page 133)

    Bombasius sent Erasmus Vaticanus readings from I John 4:1-3 and I John 5:7. (Michael Maynard, A History of the Debate Over I John 5:7,8. Tempe AZ: Comma Publications, 1995, p. 75.)

    Erasmus was also apparently given 365 readings from Vaticanus by Sepulveda. (I can't remember the cite for this one but I am looking for it. My office is in the midst of a re-model and is more than a bit chaotic right now.) [​IMG]
     
    #25 TCassidy, Apr 2, 2005
  6. mioque

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    About Sepulveda and Erasmus.

    "Sepulveda had access to Codex Vaticanus (from 1521 on) and supplied Erasmus with 365 readings in the year 1533 to show that these readings agreed with the Vulgate against the TR."
    http://www-user.uni-bremen.de/~wie/Vaticanus/umlauts.html

    Good call.
     
    #26 mioque, Apr 2, 2005
  7. TCassidy

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    Thanks. I knew I remembered reading it but couldn't remember the source.

    I don't remember ever having read anything written by Dr. Wieland Willker in the field of textual criticism, and I certainly don't do a lot of reading in his field, which seems to be organic chemistry, [​IMG] so I wonder if we both got the information from the same source.

    [pause]

    I just looked through my syllabus and it appears I read it in "A Plain Introduction to the Criticism of the New Testament" by Scrivener. [​IMG]

    There is also a note that it appears in "A History of the Textual Criticism of the New Testament" by Marvin R. Vincent.

    I wish my rememberer worked as well as my forgetter! :D
     
    #27 TCassidy, Apr 2, 2005
  8. mioque

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    Isn't Wieland Willker a german?
    I wouldn't be surprised if he read it in one of those unwieldy but very thorough textbooks that country is famous for.
     
    #28 mioque, Apr 2, 2005
  9. TCassidy

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    Yes. He is Professor of Organic Chemistry at the University of Bremen.
     
    #29 TCassidy, Apr 2, 2005
  10. Aaron

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    Yes. Do we know each other? </font>[/QUOTE]Never met in person, but I could always depend on a well informed response from you to questions concerning the texts behind the KJV.

    Glad to see you back on the board! [​IMG]
     
    #30 Aaron, Apr 3, 2005
  11. TCassidy

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    Okay. Sorry but I have been gone a long time and it will take me a while to remember some of the old regulars.

    I will try not to be too informed in my responses, for it seems that some people here are allergic to facts! :D :D :D
     
    #31 TCassidy, Apr 3, 2005
  12. AVL1984

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    Hey, Thomas! Glad to see you, Brother! [​IMG]
     
    #32 AVL1984, Apr 4, 2005
  13. TCassidy

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    Hello, Tony! Long time. How have you been?
     
    #33 TCassidy, Apr 4, 2005
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    Doing well, Brother. I'll be sending you a PM sometime today! [​IMG]
     
    #34 AVL1984, Apr 5, 2005
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