Thank Calvin for your freedom

Could you give us some scripture that supports what you have said?

 

Had a pastor once who somehow managed to talk about tithing in just about every sermon he preached. He and I were discussing a different subject, and he mentioned that someone had complained to him about how he was always preaching about tithing; he said he had gone back through all of his sermon titles for the entire last year, and there wasn't one single sermon on the subject of tithing.

 

You certainly do brag about your pride!

Proverbs 16:18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

Proverbs 16:19 Better it is to be of an humble spirit with the lowly, than to divide the spoil with the proud.

 

Growing up, I was taught in History class that George Washington held the title, "Father of America"

Now, Camp Calvin claims Calvin holds that title.

I think that title needs to go back farther in History... In the late 15th Century A.D., Columbus was said to be the discoverer of America. One could claim he rightly was the "Father of America."

But... prior to Columbus, History records trips to what is now called America by the Norse in 986 A.D.

Even though it is evident people visited prior to Columbus, I will stick with the History Books and go with Washington as the true "Father of America." It was he who was our first President.

 

I think that is a bit of a twist.

I know what you mean about the westboro morons.
Does this even mean you have to honor the personal heroes and idol of the morons that demand that you honor their personal heroes and idols?

 

Being an American and a Christian is nothing to boast about. The apostle Paul had plenty to boast about but his boasting was in Christ alone:

Philippians 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.

Philippians 3:4 Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:

Philippians 3:5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;

Philippians 3:6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.

Philippians 3:7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.

Philippians 3:8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,

Galatians 6:14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.

Our boast is in the Lord alone:

Psalms 34:2 My soul shall make her boast in the LORD: the humble shall hear thereof, and be glad.

Psalms 44:8 In God we boast all the day long, and praise thy name for ever. Selah.

BTW, John Calvin was NOT the "father of America"...George Washington was.

 

For someone who likes to point out when others are allegedly setting up strawmen -- this was a classic.

She never said she wasn't proud; she said it was nothing to boast about. As in, "not of works, lest any man should boast," ya know?

 

Proud to be American? Are you serious?

Have you watched the news lately? Parents killing children, children killing children, gay pride being taught to children in schools, the POtUS has practically destroyed the country, corrupt government leaders, ... the list goes on and on.

Proud to be American? Not hardly. Nowadays it is a shame to be American.

 

Nothing gets past you, does it?

 

Some of Luke's quotes on this page:

Wow...where to start?

First, it's obvious that productive discussion won't happen here. You immediately launch into ad hominems and name-calling.
You throw verbal grenades--attacking the person rather than the position.

There have been several attempts to discuss with you the disagreement that many have with your concept that Calvin was not just influential--but that somehow he was the Father of our Country.

You are simply unwilling, however, to discuss it maturely.

Furthermore--in what universe is disagreeing with you about Calvin "spitting in his eye?"
I don't have the money to go dig him up, and my limited forensics studies tell me the eye is far too decomposed to spit on, anyhow.
Come on man...let's not be so melodramatic. And I really don't get why you're taking this so personally. You're genuinely angry about this, and frankly, I find that a wee bit disturbing.


I put this quote separate from the others: I feel strongly that you owe the person to whom you launched this grenade an apology:

Please do not disrespect someone's wife, as well as a fellow believer, by talking to them in such a way. That's absolutely uncalled for.

Am I a mod? Of course I'm not. Just voicing my opinion. But it's almost as if you're coming unhinged, man. If you're getting as angry as your posts appear, I'd suggest a break.

But you're grown up, so do what you want. But consider your witness in the process.

 

Wrong guess. Both Phelps and Wright are not even worth imitating.

 

Open your eyes, Luke. It is only getting worse. Patriotism has nothing to do with it. It is the laws that are being passed by liberals who have no fear of God that have people like myself disgusted with what is going on in our country.

And laws are getting stricter and stricter. The Congress is squeezing the poor and elderly out. It is turning America into a cesspool of filth that one who was once patriotic at heart can do nothing about.

You want to be proud of America in the shape it is in? Go ahead. But don't belittle those who are disgusted with the shape it is in and are unable to do anything about it.

You want to be proud of America in the shape it is in? Next time there is news that tells of a young mother killing an infant, stand up, wave your flag and cheer her on. Next time there is a gay protest in which a God-fearing preacher is bashed for standing up against sin, you go ahead and wave that flag and cheer as the police haul the preacher off to jail for preaching the Word of God.

Go ahead and cheer. You won't see me there.