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The ‘King of Whoppers' for 2015 is Donald Trump --Fact Check

Crabtownboy

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Remember the old adage, "Don't believe anything you read or hear and only half of what you see." Seems especially appropriate when dealing with politicians.

It’s been a banner year for political whoppers — and for one teller of tall tales in particular: Donald Trump.

In the 12 years of FactCheck.org’s existence, we’ve never seen his match.

He stands out not only for the sheer number of his factually false claims, but also for his brazen refusals to admit error when proven wrong.

But Trump topped them all when he claimed to have seen nonexistent television coverage of “thousands and thousands” of Muslims in New Jersey cheering the collapse of the World Trade Center towers on 9/11 — and then topped himself by demanding that fact-checkers apologize for exposing his claim as fantasy. And that’s only one example.

Trump’s Falsehoods
We won’t get into Trump’s controversial policy positions; it’s not a fact-checker’s role to offer opinions on whether it’s a good idea or a bad idea for the federal government to bar Muslims from entering the United States or to kill the families of terrorists, for example. What we focus on here are some of the many cases where he’s just wrong on the facts.

We start with his Nov. 21 claim to have watched on television as “thousands and thousands” of Muslims in New Jersey were “cheering” the fall of the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. Multiple news organizations and the New Jersey attorney general’s office searched for evidence of public celebrations at the time of 9/11 and found none.

“Never happened,” former state Attorney General John J. Farmer, a Republican appointee who later served as a senior counsel to the 9/11 Commission, wrote in response to Trump.

In a tweet, Trump demanded an apology, citing as evidence one news story about an alleged incident that was unattributed, unverified and not televised. One of the reporters on that story said he visited the “Jersey City building and neighborhood where the celebrations were purported to have happened,” but he could “never verify that report.”

And Trump’s false claim about “thousands and thousands” of Muslims is just part of a pattern of inflammatory claims with little or no basis in fact. Here are some more — and it’s not an exhaustive list.

• Trump boasted that he “predicted Osama bin Laden.” Nope. The book Trump published in 2000 mentioned bin Laden once, and predicted nothing about bin Laden’s future plans.

• Trump “heard” that Obama is “thinking about signing an executive order where he wants to take your guns away.” If so, he misheard. What Obama reportedly considered was requiring large-volume private gun dealers to conduct background checks, not confiscating firearms from those who own them.

• Trump said he “heard” the Obama administration plans to accept 200,000 Syrian refugees — even upping that wildly inaccurate number to 250,000 in another speech.Nope and nope. The number is about 10,000.

• Trump said he got to know Putin “very well” while the two were on CBS’ 60 Minutes. Nope. The two men were interviewed separately, in different countries thousands of miles apart.

• Trump claimed his campaign is “100%” self-funded. Nope. At the time, more than 50% of his campaign’s funds had come from outside contributors.

• Trump said his tax plan is revenue neutral. Nope. The pro-business Tax Foundationestimated the Trump plan would reduce revenues to the Treasury by more than $10 trillion over 10 years, even assuming his plan would create economic growth.

• Trump told the story of a 2-year-old who got autism a week after the child got a vaccine. But there’s no evidence of such a link. The study that claimed to have found a link between vaccines and autism has been exposed as an “elaborate fraud.” It was retracted five years ago by the journal that published it, and the author was stripped of his license to practice medicine in Britain.

• Trump said Mexico doesn’t have a birthright citizenship policy. It does.

• Trump claimed credit for getting Ford Motor Co. to move a plant from Mexico to Ohio.Ford says that’s baloney; it made the decision years before Trump even announced his run for president.

• Trump denied that he ever called female adversaries some of these things: “fat pigs, dogs, slobs and disgusting animals.” He used all of those terms.

• Trump said in June “there are no jobs” to be had, when official statistics were showing 5.4 million job openings — the most in 15 years.

• Trump claimed economic growth in the U.S. has “never” been below zero — until the third quarter of 2015. “Who ever heard of this?” he asked. Except it’s not unheard of.Economic growth has been below zero 42 times since 1946.
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carpro

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The liar -in-chief in the white house is more than a match for Trump. He's probably worse than both Clintons put together, although that's a stretch.

Hillary's lies make Trump look like a choirboy.
 

church mouse guy

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Obama and the Clintons are still the all-time champion liars. And factor in Democrats who say that the Latin word "fetus" does not mean "unborn child," and that sodomy is normal and natural and is marriage, not to mention "hands up; don't shoot" as the last words of the gentle giant Michael Brown who attempted to assault with deadly intent a policeman. And don't forget Russell Moore's false allegations, either.
 

carpro

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http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-127299

Obama's Laundry List of Lies!!

Posted October 28, 2008


"1.) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965. *hotair.com
  • 2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.*
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message504435/pg1
  • 3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.*
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/01/obamas-oginga-o.html
  • 4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades. *
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/01/obamas-oginga-o.html
  • 5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man. Source: According to NYTimes story of April of last year, Sarah Hussein Obama
told the New York Times she is a devout Muslim. 6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and ‘Baraka' (from which Barack came) means ‘blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama. 7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office. 8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book). 9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language. 10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.


That's just the 1st 10. There are 66 others on this list. The killer is that it doesn't include his time in office. That number alone is astronomical.
 

matt wade

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Just because other people lie, doesn't make it right for Trump to lie. His supporters either need to admit they are OK with supporting a habitual liar, or retract their support.
 

church mouse guy

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Just because other people lie, doesn't make it right for Trump to lie. His supporters either need to admit they are OK with supporting a habitual liar, or retract their support.

Clinton said the other day that she did not take money from energy companies. That is a whopper. I think that those who are for Trump (there are none on this board) are fed up with political correctness and the lies of Obama and allow Trump to exaggerate. That seems to be the nature of populism.
 

matt wade

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Clinton said the other day that she did not take money from energy companies. That is a whopper. I think that those who are for Trump (there are none on this board) are fed up with political correctness and the lies of Obama and allow Trump to exaggerate. That seems to be the nature of populism.

I'm glad to here that you don't support Trump. I don't support Trump, Obama, or Clinton. I think they are all liars.

My point was that it doesn't make sense to try and excuse Trump's lies by showing that someone else lied. It would be the same if someone said "Osama Bin Laden murdered a bunch of people!" and someone else said "Well, Hitler killed a lot more!". Neither set of murders is acceptable and one isn't more palatable simply because someone else murdered more.
 

church mouse guy

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I'm glad to here that you don't support Trump. I don't support Trump, Obama, or Clinton. I think they are all liars.

My point was that it doesn't make sense to try and excuse Trump's lies by showing that someone else lied. It would be the same if someone said "Osama Bin Laden murdered a bunch of people!" and someone else said "Well, Hitler killed a lot more!". Neither set of murders is acceptable and one isn't more palatable simply because someone else murdered more.

Well, I agree and I like your post but I think that you have to take it with a grain of salt when a leftist Democrat calls Trump a liar. Is he a liar like Russell Moore, who heads up an SBC commission? Or is he a liar like Secretary of Defense Ash Carter, who compromised US security with his emails, long ago in the hands of the Russians and Chinese? Or is he just a riverboat gambler who pops off and doesn't know a lot about national issues? Or is he a leftist who says that the unborn child is not a human being and that sodomy is normal and natural?
 

Alcott

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Remember the old adage, "Don't believe anything you read or hear and only half of what you see." Seems especially appropriate when dealing with politicians.

Okay. I just read that Donald Trump is the king of whoppers. I will take your advice And not believe it.
 

carpro

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Just because other people lie, doesn't make it right for Trump to lie. His supporters either need to admit they are OK with supporting a habitual liar, or retract their support.

Not a supporter. Just Keeping things in perspective.
 
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