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Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Crabtownboy, Jun 6, 2014.

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  1. Crabtownboy

    Crabtownboy Well-Known Member
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    How is it I knew you would not answer the question I ask? You fed the issue that took this thread off topic, and now accuse others. ROFL

    Anyway, I bet you were one who condemned Kerry for his supposed flip-flop way back when, but now support the flip-flopping GOP politicians.

    I did not stake a position in the OP, just said the article shows that no matter what Obama does there are many who will condemn him regardless. Do you agree?
     
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    See this is why you have no credibility on this board. You build false premises like this.


    1. It is false that PP is the only place where women can obtain these.

    2. It is false that if there were no PP then women would find it difficult to find places to obtain these services.

    What is true:

    1. PP's primary purpose is abortion

    2. More than 16 % of their services go to abortions.

    2. If all PP facilities were to close today women would still be able to find places for the services that PP rarely offers and usually refers out to other clinics.

    So if you want to gain some credibility back you need to start with those truths.
     
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    Crabtownboy has never refuted the Progressive Christianity's position of denying the atonement of the crucifixion. He praised the people who wrote it and preached it.

    He likes to play a victim, but he puts error up on this board all the time, then lies and switches topics when called. He has not answered a question honestly or rationally since he's been here. He calls people racist, homophobic, sexist, hating the poor, offers no proof, in fact asks us for proof we are not.

    If he ain't a troll, I don't know what is. I stand by that. If he can call us the names he does, he should expect the "troll" moniker, and if the moderators are going to let him call us the names, they should stop protecting this atheist, christ-denying, Christian-hating troll.
     
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    What do you mean by "atonement of the crucifixion?"

    I hold that Christ was our sacrifice and it is through him that salvation and God's loving grace that salvation is available to us.

    He likes to play a victim, but he puts error up on this board all the time, then lies and switches topics when called. He has not answered a question honestly or rationally since he's been here. He calls people racist, homophobic, sexist, hating the poor, offers no proof, in fact asks us for proof we are not.

    I really do not remember ever using the word homophobic.. But there are those who are not honest enough to own up to what they really feel. But I do believe there are others who are so unaware of themselves that they truly believe they do not fit any of these feelings, even though they do inside.

    I started on this BB hoping to find rational discussion. There are some on the board who will discuss rationally. Then there are others who ......................
     
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    Under current law there are other places they can have abortions. I am not in favor of closing all hospitals that perform abortions. Are you?

    Frankly I am surprised that only 16% goes for abortions. That means 84% goes for other services, much higher than I thought.

    You flatly state that women would find other places to find services. I believe that is an unsupportable stance. A nice idea, your opinion, but a real possibility in many cases.

    So my premise is correct. Without these services there would be women who would go not diagnosed and would unnecessarily die.

    So, again, how many deaths are justifiably to you in this regard? Why do you fear answer the question?
     
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    Once again, your premise is false. Your premise being that without PP women could not get those services. It lacks intellectual integrity.
     
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    I did not make a flat statement, as you did. There are other services, mostly for fee services. Two problems; they would be overwhelmed in many instances and in most others charge fees that poor women could not afford. Let's say a PP center serves 1000 women a month. That means 160, according to your percentage, would have an abortion and 840 would use other services. The additional 840 women would overwhelm most other services, to say nothing of those in that group who could not afford to pay the fees involved with hospitals, doctor's offices, etc. The free clinic here, that I have worked at as a volunteer, would be completely overwhelmed if this were to happen here.

    So women would die.

    So, again, how many unnecessary deaths are acceptable to you? A simple question.
     
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    That is all false. And yes you did make a flat statement.
     
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    You won't admit it's on topic because then you'd have to agree that the republicans are justified for not liking it. So totally on topic, and you know it.


    Everything since then has been off topic....
     
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    It's time to put an end to the nonsense. He's a troll, no two ways about it, and he needs to go. Hear that, Mods??
     
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    I foresee this thread closing and points being accrued if not out right banning.
     
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    ... of the wrong people. :BangHead:
     
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    Let's get back to the topic of the OP:
     
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    If I use the definition y'all want me to use, I'd have to close down the CvA forum, where folks go at each other with hammers and tongs. Then, the Politics Forum would be closed soon after.

    This number have you read my last email to you?

     
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