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The Carpenter's Chapel (8)

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by DHK, Oct 25, 2007.

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  1. Marcia

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    This is a debate forum - I don't get why the Carpenter's Chapel is here. Isn't it in the wrong forum?
     
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    Marcia, I started the Carpenter's Chapel here just because it is a debate forum and because it covered all denominations and possibly unbelievers as well.

    It seemed to me to be the correct place for peace and truth without debate. An oasis in a desert of anger and unrest. A place to wait upon the Lord's word to the heart as opposed to the debating mind.

    That was my aim. We already had one in the non-debating room, which I also started. I am not sure it is still up and running, but this one is, thanks to the faithful "carpenter" who took it on when I left. Thank you, mate. Thank you.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  3. Gwyneth

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    I remember when Jim started this thread, and how it has always been a great encouragement and inspiration to me. Thanks Jim for starting this and Watchman for keeping it going.
    Gwyneth :wavey:
     
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    I remember Jim starting this Chapel and I am so pleased to see it still continued by Watchman. Thank you gentlemen.
     
  5. Watchman

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    Who art thou?

    "Yet says the house of Israel, The way of the Lord is not equal. O house of Israel, are not my ways equal? are not your ways unequal?" (Eze 18:29)
    It is the height of arrogance, not to mention blasphemy, for anyone of this fallen race of ours to question, or lay a charge to God. I recall getting into a conversation one time with a co-worker. Somehow, the conversation got onto the conquest of Canaan. He was disturbed how the Israelites, with the help of God as we know, took the land after great battles. The conversation went like this: "They slaughtered those people, even children." "Yes they did." "It’s okay to kill children?" "In this case God said to do it, so, yes." "So, it’s okay to kill children if God says to?" "If we believe that God is absolutely sovereign, yes."
    My only thought at this point was "Who does this guy think he is?" Surely it is a great folly for fallen, sin full man to think that he has a higher ethical standard than his Creator. As the Scripture states: "Nay but, O man, who are you that replies against God? (Rom 9:20a)
    There are many things recorded in the Scripture that are not, as we put it today, "politically correct," many things that are not what we would call pleasant, and, certainly, in this age of grace, God would not have us to do today.
    Abraham asked a good question:
    "Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?" (Gen 18:25b) Yes, He always has, and always will.




     
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    Amen. Thank you Charles.

    Blessings

    following-Him
     
  7. Gwyneth

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    Hello Watchman,
    Thanks for the post, when I read the part, above, I thought, sometimes `politically correct` as the world would call it,
    is not always morally correct as the Bible would have it either.
    kind regards,
    Gwyneth
     
  8. Watchman

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    Cities of Refuge

    "Speak to the children of Israel, saying, Appoint for yourselves cities of refuge, of That the slayer that kills any person accidentally and unintentionally may flee there: and they shall be your refuge from the avenger of blood." (Joshua 20:2-3)

    The meaning of the names of the cities of refuge that were appointed by God at the founding of the nation of Israel are very interesting:
    Kedesh, to make or be holy, and hence Kedesh, holiness, the full consecration of a person to God. Christ made us holy.That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
    (Eph 5:27)

    Shechem, to bear burdens, prop up, sustain, etc. Christ bore our burdens.Come unto me, all you that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and you shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. (Mat 11:28-30)

    Hebron, to associate, join, conjoin, unite as friends; fellowship, friendly association. Christ made fellowship with God possible.That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that you also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. (1Jo 1:3)

    Bezer, a fortified place, a fortress. Christ is our fortress in times of trouble.O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the nations shall come unto you from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things in which there is no profit. (Jer 16:19)

    Ramoth, to be raised, made high or exalted. Christ has been exalted-and has taken us with Him.Therefore God also has highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: (Phi 2:9)

    Golan, to rejoice, hence Golan, rejoicing or exultation. Christ has made us rejoice in God through Him. By whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. (Romans 5:2)


     
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    Thank you Charles. I found that very interesting and helpful.

    Blessings

    following-Him
     
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    Thank you Watchman , I am so glad you`re back posting , that was very interesting I like to know what the names mean .
    Gwyneth
     
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    God Revealed

    "No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, He hath declared Him" (John 1:18).
    God, in His essential being, is omnipresent. 'Whither shall I go from thy Spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?" (Psalm 139:7). This rhetorical question of David's has the obvious answer that one can never escape God's presence: He is present everywhere in His creation. Being present everywhere, He is necessarily invisible anywhere. He is "the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God" (I Timothy 1:17).
    Yet, although God is omnipresent, He is also omnipotent, and He can therefore manifest Himself in tangible, visible form when He chooses. This He has done at various times through the ages, as on this occasion when He, with two angels, appeared to Abraham in the form of three men (Genesis 18).
    This text resolves any apparent contradictions in these truths by noting that, when God manifests Himself visibly to man, He does so in the person of His only begotten Son. The Lord Jesus Christ, in fact, is "the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature" (Colossians 1:15). In some marvelous way beyond comprehension, the omnipresent, infinite God has on occasion taken on the appearance of human beings in order to convey a specific revelation or accomplish some divine purpose: Such manifestations are called theophanies and each has been implemented by the Son of God in pre-incarnate form.
    Finally, however, the only begotten Son of God became also the eternal Son of man. "For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and show unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us" (I John 1:2).
     
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    Thank you Charles, as always, informative and educational.
    Gwyneth
     
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    Wishing all who look in here a very Happy New Year :)
     
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    That Memorable Night Pt.1

    That Memorable Night
    by C. H. Spurgeon
    "When I see the blood, I will pass over you..." Exodus 12,13.
    God's people are always safe. But God's people are only safe through the blood; because He sees the blood-mark on their brow. They are bought with the precious Blood of Christ. Nothing can hurt them, because "the blood" is upon them. It was so that night in Egypt; God spared, because He saw the blood-mark on the lintel and on the two side posts. And so it is with us. In the case of the Israelites it was the blood of the Paschal Lamb. In our case it is the blood of the Lamb of God. The blood — the blood of a Divinely appointed
    victim. Jesus Christ did not come into this world unappointed. He was sent by His Father. Sinner! the Blood of Christ is well-pleasing to God; for God Himself did choose Christ to be the Redeemer; and He Himself did lay upon Christ the iniquity of us all. It was God's
    will that the Blood of Jesus should be shed. Jesus is God's chosen Saviour for men. Sinner! He is able to save you. Christ Jesus, like the lamb, was not only a Divinely appointed
    victim, but He was spotless. Had there been one sin in Christ, He had not been capable of being our Saviour; but He was without sin. Turn, then, your eye to the Cross, and see Jesus bleeding there and dying for you. Remember those words:
    "For sins not His own, He died to atone."
     
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    THat Memorable Night Pt. 2

    That Memorable Night
    by C. H. Spurgeon
    "When I see the blood, I will pass over you..." Exodus 12,13.
    The Blood of Jesus is able to save thee, because "He died, the Just for the unjust." But some will say, "Whence has the Blood of Christ
    such power to save?" Because Christ Himself was God. If Christ were man only, there would be no efficacy in His blood to save.
    The Lamb was slain every year, but Christ, once for all, hath put away sin by the offering of Himself. He has said, "It is finished."
    Let that ring in our ears.
    The Blood of Jesus Christ is Blood that hath been accepted. Christ died, He was buried; but neither Heaven nor earth could tell whether
    God had accepted the ransom. Until God had signed the warrant for acquittal of all His people, Christ must abide in the bonds of
    death. But now is Christ risen. The blood was accepted, and sin was forgiven.
    For a moment try to picture to yourself Christ on the Cross. Lift now your eyes and see the three crosses put upon that rising knoll.
    See in the centre the thorn-crowned brow of Christ. See the hands nailed fast to the accursed wood! See His face, more marred than
    that of any other man, see it now, as His head bows upon His bosom in the agonies of death! He was a real man, remember, it was a real
    cross. Do not think of these things as fancies and romance. There was such a Being, and He died as I describe it. Sit still a moment
    and think: "The blood of that Man, whom now I behold dying, must be my redemption; and if I would be saved, I must put my only trust in
    what He suffered for me.
    God says, "When I see the blood, I will pass over you."
     
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    Charles,
    I really appreciate the readings that you post here.
    Gwyneth
     
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    Thank you Charles.

    Blessings

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    That Memorable Night Pt.3

    That Memorable Night
    by C. H. Spurgeon
    "When I see the blood, I will pass over you..." Exodus 12,13.
    God's people are always safe. But God's people are only safe through the blood; because He sees the blood-mark on their brow. They are bought with the precious Blood of Christ. Nothing can hurt them, because "the blood" is upon them. It was so that night in Egypt; God spared, because He saw the blood-mark on the lintel and on the two side posts. And so it is with us. In the case of the Israelites it was the blood of the Paschal Lamb. In our case it is the blood of the Lamb of God. The blood — the blood of a Divinely appointed
    victim. Jesus Christ did not come into this world unappointed. He was sent by His Father. Sinner! the Blood of Christ is well-pleasing to God; for God Himself did choose Christ to be the Redeemer; and He Himself did lay upon Christ the iniquity of us all. It was God's
    will that the Blood of Jesus should be shed. Jesus is God's chosen Saviour for men. Sinner! He is able to save you. Christ Jesus, like the lamb, was not only a Divinely appointed
    victim, but He was spotless. Had there been one sin in Christ, He had not been capable of being our Saviour; but He was without sin. Turn, then, your eye to the Cross, and see Jesus bleeding there and dying for you. Remember those words:
    "For sins not His own, He died to atone."
     
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    Amen. Thank you Charles.

    Blessings

    following-Him
     
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    Changes

    I am afraid that I will have to leave, for how long, I don't know. Sheila, I have sent an email to you explaing what happened.
    Please, please pray for us.
    Charles
     
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