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The Case for Obama: Why He Is a Great President. Yes, Great.

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by FR7 Baptist, Nov 5, 2012.

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  1. Arbo

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    If you are strongly pro-life, how do you justify supporting a man who essentially never saw a piece of pro-abortion legislation that he didn't like?
     
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    Then you voted for the wrong candidate. Obama trashed states rights with Obamacare and the mandates. Civil liberties? Did you know Obama has a kill list? Is that on your civil liberty list? Social Democracy? We live in a Republic. Is that another word for redistributing wealth? Amendment 5 must be a Florida issue - not national. Energy security? Obama defeated the Keystone pipeline and has all but shut down the coal indusry through his regulations on it - some 90,000 coal miners are affected not counting the other industries that count on coal. That also will increase your own energy prices as most electricity is generated by coal. Your gasoline prices have doubled since he took office. The majority of drilling for oil has been on private lands, since his agencies drag their feet about giving permits for drilling. Large rigs moved out of the Gulf and down to Brazil and other places because he shut them down after the BP spill and wouldn't give them freedom to drill. Meanwhile, China is drilling out the Gulf oil.

    War with Iran - no problem there. They continue to work on their nukes while obama plays golf.

    I have a feeling that rather than research the issues and how Obama stands on the issues, you would have voted for him no matter what or maybe really don't care. But maybe I'm wrong. I hope other Christians will enlighten themselves about his stance on the "social issues" before they cast their vote.
     
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  3. targus

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    If those issues are important to you then why in the world are you supporting Obama? :confused:
     
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  4. FR7 Baptist

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    Because he's better than Romney on them. Especially on the economy.
     
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  5. targus

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    Can you give one specific thing that Obama has done or will do to improve the economy?
     
    #25 targus, Nov 5, 2012
  6. LadyEagle

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    Besides adding $6 trillion to the national debt? :tear:
     
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  7. OldRegular

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    Touche' Lady Eagle!
     
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    That warm dark place again!
     
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    Please :eek: & I sincerely hope that McCain nails Obama with that Benghazi inquest ...as McCain sited that either BO covered up or was incompetent in Benghazi. Personally I would suggest both claims are accurate. :mad:
     
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  10. OldRegular

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    Touche' EWF!:smilewinkgrin:
     
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  11. TCassidy

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    You can't possibly be that ill informed!
    Obama is against states rights. His justice department has violated the states rights of state after state to enforce his presidential dictates that have not been passed by any congress.
    Obama is against them. He wants to limit the 1st amendment. He wants to eliminate the 2nd amendment and wants to weaken the 4th, 5th, and 10th.
    Its his war, remember?
    He broke it. He is incompetent to fix it.
    You mean legislating against all forms of morality? Legalize gay marriage. Increase government handouts to buy votes.
    Yeah, why hold judges accountable?
    By capitulating to them!
    Obama has done more than any other President in history to stop US energy sources from being developed and used. He record on coal alone borders on treason.
     
    #31 TCassidy, Nov 5, 2012
  12. OldRegular

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    Well said TCassidy. Sadly Christians who want to vote for Obama try to justify themselves!
     
    #32 OldRegular, Nov 5, 2012
  13. FR7 Baptist

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    Amendment Five is nothing more than a legislative power grab. Judges are already held accountable; that's why we have retention elections for them every six years. Protect judicial independence by voting no on Five and yes on all the judges.
     
    #33 FR7 Baptist, Nov 5, 2012
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    How can Obama be for States' rights when 28 States sued over being forced into Obamacare?

    States' rights mean that States have a right to choose whether or not to participate.
    Obama is definitely not for States' rights, but rather an increased Federal power over the States to tell them what to do.
     
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    What does that have to do with why you voted for Obama??? Or why Obama is great???Amendment 5 is a Florida issue.
     
    #35 LadyEagle, Nov 5, 2012
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    We have judges elected for 10 years

    and Supreme Court judges are re-elected every - oh wait - they are in for life......

    and TCass - great post
     
    #36 Salty, Nov 5, 2012
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    What does that have to do with the presidential race?
     
    #37 OldRegular, Nov 5, 2012
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    Translantion: I am not going to be cornered to admit my support of Obama is in direct conflict with my claim to be pro-life.
     
    #38 Revmitchell, Nov 5, 2012
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    Then you are severely misinformed or not as pro-life as you claim to be.
     
    #39 Revmitchell, Nov 5, 2012
  20. Oldtimer

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    The article in the OP is right. :eek:

    Obama is a great president. He's right up there with Woodrow Wilson. Althought it's taken a 100 years, Obama's term has accomplished much of what Wilson set out to do. So, he is great in the eyes of those who hold the view of holding destruction of this REPUBLIC in high regard. Give Obama 4 more unfettered years, and he'll finish the job.

    That is if our Saviour let's this world stand that long.
     
    #40 Oldtimer, Nov 6, 2012
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