Featured The Christ of RCC is the Son of Lucifer

Let me add the following to my comment: I don't agree with my fellow Baptist brethren that the reason for being baptized is as an act of obedience. If baptism is not salvific, there must be a reason other than "obedience" to do it. After all, there is more of an explicit command to footwashing than for baptism, and in fact according to the scriptures Jesus Himself didn't baptize at all. So, if, as Baptists believe, baptism is not salvific and doesn't bestow grace, what does it do? I believe it is a compelling picture of salvation, of the gospel message. It demonstrates the Christian faith as in a moving picture. That's why a mode other than immersion is insufficient. I would allow for non-immersion in cases of necessity, but normally I believe immersion should be done.

In brief, when immersion baptism takes place, the essence of the Gospel is presented for all to see: the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus is the assurance of those who have faith in Him, that they too will be resurrected.

To me, this is the significance, reason for, and meaning of baptism.

So, I am opposed to baptismal regeneration, but obedience is not sufficient reason for water baptism, either.

P.S. I suppose we have gone off topic, but considering the original topic, well.............

 

What if the case is that water baptism not only is a "Fruit" of Matt 7 - Good trees -- obedience, but also in response to that fruit other events happen related to God's anointing/ministry/mission given to the believer.

A believer in rebellion is not much use to God.

So while I do not believe in baptismal regeneration - I do believe in the act as one of obedience and that obedience leads to more usefulness as a believer. I also believe in foot washing as Christ recommended to us.

in Christ,

Bob

 

I believe this is the name of the unfallen angel - in heaven - Lucifer whose name is later changed to Satan - the way Saul's name is changed to Paul.

in Christ,

Bob

 

If baptism is primarily an act of obedience, why would Jesus command something which He did not practice Himself?

Also, do you think churches such as the Quakers and Salvation Army are being disobedient? They believe the true baptism is spiritual, and they think it's more important to be obedient in another area: Love your neighbor as yourself.