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Discussion in 'Baptist History' started by Squire Robertsson, Jul 8, 2017.

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  1. Salty

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    Same street that Bob Jones University is on.
     
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    As Jerome points out in one of his posts above, they weren't called the CBF until the 1940s, but have a history that goes back to the Fundamental Fellowship in the 1920s.

    Interesting. Thanks.
     
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    On their website, the NTAIBC says this (and more) about the Fundamental Fellowship:
    Anyone know if the Goodchild Confession is available anywhere online?
     
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    JonC, I don't think this speaks directly to your question, since yours came from a local church web site. But I did discover something interesting (and different) about the covenanting in the national organization. Following reorganization circa 2004-05, CBAmerica became “a covenantal fellowship” made up of regional associations. The local churches are members of the regional associations and do not directly participate in the national organization CBAmerica, whose only members are the regional associations.
     
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    This could be a bit hard to answer.
    Many churches subscribe to the 2000 B&FM
    Yet some other churches have only confirmed the 1963 BF&M

    So is our "2000" church in covenant with a "1963" church?

    and then in addition - there are several doctrines/practices which separate SBC affiliated churches.

    Differences between the 1963 and 2000 BF&M
     
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    So does mine, but no ne of them bring doubtful disputation but are put in use to discern the truth.

    However, I would not remain in an assembly that considered one version "The Only" no matter the version.

    My preference may not be my neighborin pew sitter preference, but the truth is not a preference and not for sale at the Bible store.

    It is the work of the Holy Spirit to reveal truth, inspite and despite the version.
     
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    You and I would agree that this is not a point to divide over then, as we all can have and use different translation!
     
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    I have received the book and started reading, with the first chapter relating problems in Colorado. It paints a pretty bleak picture of the weak neo-evangelical "fundamentalism" of Denver Seminary.

    I would have been against both the tactics and modernizing of the seminary, but would have run afoul of the fundamentalist leaders too, since I don't make pretribulationalism a test of fellowship, or think it should be.
     
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    Found it:

    babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=chi.097673064;view=1up;seq=690
     
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    No. It is directly opposed to Christ's will for the Church.

    There are at least three ways to live as a Christian while in "captivity" in this world. You can be a separatist (Pharisees and IFBs), you can fully assimilate (Sadducees, and protestant Liberalism) or you can be "in the world, but not of it" by living within the community and being active in it.

    IFBs and some other Christian groups tend to put their lamp under a bushel. Most Protestant Liberals don't even have a lamp, and Christians who live as Christ instructed are a "city on a hill". They are salt and light to the world. Salt, as a preservative, needs to be rubbed into meat. It needs to be in contact with meat in order to preserve it. Light from a lamp helps to guide one's steps and help them see clearly. Both are worthless unless they are near enough to be of use.

    We must live as a city within a city, not withdraw and not assimilate.
     
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    The first cut on lining up with a New Testament Church: explore the ones who have no wreaths on the doors of their meeting houses in December. Many folk are in the throes of pagan idolatry.(cults not included)

    "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith The Lord, and touch not the unclean thing, and I will receive you." saith The Lord, touch not the unclean thing, and I will receive you," 2 Cor 6::17 is still in effect.

    Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

    Bro. James
     
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    That text is urging people within the church at Corinth not to be "unequally yoked" with unbelievers. It says nothing about isolating yourself from people.

    Examine the life of Jesus. Did He live as a monk, hiding in a monastery, or did he dine with sinners?
     
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    And celebrating birthdays, which even observes the pagan practice of offering gifts to the gods on their day. The traditional birthday cake originates in ancient idol worship (with flames lifting up prayers to be carried to the gods). I wonder how many Christians embrace the unclean thing by celebrating birthdays.

    And hot chocolate (I suppose chocolate in general) which began as a drink Aztecs used in ceremonies to their pagan gods. This is probably one of the most frequent sins I see Christians embracing, especially during this time of the year. I even know of a church that offered hot chocolate as an outreach mission on "Black Friday".
     
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    There is a devil under every rock, it seems.

    BTW, my birthday is next week, and I'll be sure to enjoy both.

    "To the pure, all things are pure".
     
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    Happy Birthday and Merry Christmas.
     
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    Pagan!;););)
     
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    But who determines what essential areas of Faith are?

    For some groups - closed communion is an essential doctrine
    For others it is non-essential

    For some groups - being involved with other non-fundamentalist* is an essential doctrine
    For others it is non-essential

    For Some groups -CCM is sinful - thus an essential doctrine
    For others it is non-essential

    * and to some fundamentalis - if you are not exactly like them- than you are not a fundamentalist!
     
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    Not to complain and whine too much, but this thread is supposed to be historical discussion of the conservative Baptist conflict within the Northern Baptist Convention, not debates on completely unrelated matters! :eek:

    Thanks a million.
     
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    Yes, it is. Further drifting posts will be deleted. The SBC gets the lion's share of discussion on this board. So, let us NBCers have the opportunity to discuss our history.
     
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