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The crazy adventures of the infallible pope Alexander VI

Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by Bro. Curtis, Nov 7, 2003.

  1. Bro. Curtis

    Bro. Curtis <img src =/curtis.gif>

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    Here's another nut. Born as Rodrigo Borgia, he became pope in 1492. His love of money, and promiscuous women are well documented. He had children with several women, and he was known to take men's wives as his own. These facts were known to the Cardinals, and he was elected anyway.

    Read more here .

    How could a church protected from error elect this scoundrel as their leader ?
     
  2. MikeS

    MikeS New Member

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    What heresies did he teach?
     
  3. Bro. Curtis

    Bro. Curtis <img src =/curtis.gif>

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    I don't care. I didn't hear him teach. The church was offended, not me.
     
  4. Daniel David

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    Come on catholics, he is supposed to be the "VICAR of Christ".

    How laughable.

    I am glad I am not blind.
     
  5. GraceSaves

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    Yes, he is. And unless he taught official Church doctrine that was heretical, he fulfilled that. Peter taught correct doctrine even though he denied he knew Jesus Christ.

    You are blind.
     
  6. Ray Berrian

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    Maybe Pope Alexander VI bought his own 'indulgences' and told the clerk to put the coins in the Vatican bank. After all it was Friday night and . . .
     
  7. Ray Berrian

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    God speaking through the Apostle Paul tells us that a bishop 'must be blameless . . . . and of good behavior . . . . ' [I Timothy 3:2] In the mind of the Lord--- Alexander VI was neither a bishop or the Vicar of Christ. Sounds like he had difficulty living above sin and was, therefore, not a representative of Jesus. The 'up and outs' can go into destruction even while leaning on the papal staff. Why is it that some people only think the 'down and out' will be escorted into the flames of Hell?
     
  8. CatholicConvert

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    Brother Curtis --

    We have been down this road over and over and over and over.

    *sigh*

    Let me try again, because I like you so much.

    Did the Jewish nation of the OT cease to be the place where God's true faith was taught when King David was busy in the bedroom with another man's wife? How about when he murdered Uriah? Certainly the pagans must have laughed and said "Yeah, sure...that's the true religion of God, isn't it? I'm just real sure the Messiah is coming from that bunch of wackos. Look at how their leaders act."

    One could point to numerous other examples in both the OT and the NT of similar sins of the leaders.

    Brother, don't you remember that our Lord told us that the kingdom, represented by a net, would catch both GOOD AND BAD fish? Don't you remember that the field would bring forth wheat and tares. There is nothing in either parable which says that the bad fish and the tares would be limited to the laity.

    Do you understand that INFALLIBILITY does not extend to either personal behavior or personal beliefs?. For instance, if John Paul II came out tomorrow and said that the sky is green, that would not be an infallible pronouncement. It would be his opinion, based on some mental or psychological problem.

    Why don't you go to the list of pope HERE and do some studying? Why not read about all the good and godly men who sat in the Chair of St. Peter and vigorously defended orthodoxy against Arian, Pelegain, Monophysite, Monothellite and Montanist heretics? Why not study their lives and see those who died for the Christian Faith?

    Why, Brother Curtis, keep up this bringing up of one or two bad apples when the barrel has had so many good one in it?

    I must say this is a tad disappointing.

    But yer still my favorite Baptist on the board. ;)

    Cordially in Christ,

    Brother Ed
     
  9. Ray Berrian

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    Brother Curtis,

    Ed is saying, "You Have A Friend In Pennsylvania." This phrase used to be on our Pennsylvania license plates.
     
  10. Daniel David

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    Come on Protestants how laughable that Pauls books are in your bible. He says in Rom 7 "for the good that I would do I do not, while the EVIL that I would do I do not.". This guy wrote divinely inspired scripture? Rip them books right out. Sarcasm off.
     
  12. Justified Saint

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    Again we see that Catholics make the claim of infallibility while Protestants claim impeccablility for their church. I do love the irony of it all. [​IMG]
     
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