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The Future of the Truth

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Sep 20, 2008.

  1. KenH

    KenH Active Member

    May 18, 2002
    I have just a moment to post a portion of this excellent article before heading out for last 12 hours of taking up tickets at the gate to the county fair. See ya'll next week. :)

    "Over the last 20 months, we’ve all seen the next step on this downward spiral. Meaning the right-wing campaign to paint Obama as Osama bin Laden in a suit. But the chorus of prevarication attending Sarah Palin’s arrival on the national scene should dispel any notion that one ideology has a monopoly on mendacity.

    Factor in the mistrust (both conservative and liberal ) of what used to be regarded as the ultimate arbiter of fact—i. e., news media—and you have to wonder whether truth still has a future here.

    Like so many other things in this country, it has become splintered and factionalized. These days, every ideology has a “truth” and everybody’s “truth” has an agenda. Nothing is settled and known. All things are up in the air, all things open to interpretation. Indeed, truth hardly seems to be the point anymore. Lies serve just as well. As a result, we are no longer grounded in the same shared body of facts and in a very real sense, have no basis upon which to reason together, no basis for shared mission, purpose or identity. Already the political sides in this country talk past each other like Mars and Venus.

    If the games of obfuscation and fabrication political hacks play really are becoming common among real people, it can only get worse. They think they’re helping a candidate win an election. Truth is, they’re helping all of us lose a whole lot more."

    - rest of this excellent article at www.nwanews.com/adg/Editorial/237753/


    Apr 7, 2007
    So true KenH thanks for posting this

    I think Obama will be that agent of change, that is why he is running and that is why the American people are excited for him and themselves. It really is time for change, 8 years of cronyism has been exposed, Bush legacy is one of unprovoked war in Iraq and financial malfeasance here at home, his legacy is with Herbert Hoover if not below him.

    Barack Obama will be like JFK in his management style getting the best and brightest around him and he serves as the hub as he gathers all the facts, ideas, innovations, problem solving, and decision making implementation. Compare that to the management style of John McCain who is tripping over himself with bad timing mis-spoken ideas and words.

    America must do some soul searching on how they elected Bush and why a terrible leader like him was a trojan horse that made it inside the city gates.
    To learn from their mistake but never ever electing a person like him again and they can start sooner than later by rejecting someone who agrees with Bush
    over 90% of the time , John McCain.

    My Opinion on this Political Board

    Have fun at the fair :thumbs:
  3. Bro. Curtis

    Bro. Curtis <img src =/curtis.gif>

    Oct 25, 2001
    JFK, eh ? You mean more war, less civil rights ?

    BTW, wasn't it JFK's AG that bugged MLK's phone, ? Yup. Bobby Kennedy hisself.....
  4. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member

    Feb 18, 2006
    Obama the agent of change. :laugh:

    Change toward more socialism and communism Nothing more.
  5. Major B

    Major B <img src=/6069.jpg>

    May 6, 2003
    JFK's "management" of the White House was more akin to Billy-Bob Clinton! Don't let Michelle hear that you want her husband to emulate him. Friendly Democratic reporters, who knew he and his brothers were running a virtual brothel in the People's House, did not reveal the information, by the customs of the day.

    Best and Brightest? Yeah, his kid brother, some college classmates, and Robert MacNamara, the architect of Viet Nam.

    JFK's administration was a disaster--a fact conveniently forgotten after his tragic assassination. My dad was pretty involved in Democratic politics through the UMWA, and there was a strong move in the party to dump Kennedy before the 1964 election. Remember, the reason he was in Texas that day in Nov '63 was to shore up his Democratic base. Texas was a Democratic stronghold in those days.

    Kennedy's bumbling of the Cuban invasion, and his insufficient response to the Berlin crisis in 1962, and his weak projection at the Vienna Summit, led the Russians to try the missiles in Cuba--the closest we ever came to atomic annihilation. He did manage to pull that one out, having just read Barb Tuchman's (then new) classic, "The Guns Of War, " he put her ideas to very good use. But then He approved of the Ngo Dinh Diem assassination, which widened the war in Vietnam (a war 15 times the size of the Iraq war, let us not forget). His legacy to us was Vietnam and president Johnson, easily the most corrupt president we ever had (he just did not get caught).

    Kennedy was all presence and speech, just like Obama. The people who listened to the presidential debates of 1960 over the radio said Nixon did better. Those who watched them said that Kennedy did better. If Obama had consented to meet McCain across the country in town hall settings, Mac would be 15 points ahead by now. I just hope that the American people figure this out before it's too late.

    Obama's economic advisors by the way, include former CEOs of Fannie, Freddy, and Lehman's, and in 2005, as a new senator, he helped Chris Dodd and others block the reform package for financial institutions that McCain was pushing.

    The only comfort is that if he does fool the American people once, he won't twice.
    #5 Major B, Sep 20, 2008
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  6. billwald

    billwald New Member

    Jun 28, 2000
    "What is truth?" P. Pilate, circ. 0025.
  7. Pastor Larry

    Pastor Larry <b>Moderator</b>

    May 4, 2001
    When is he going to start this? So far, his management style has been abominable. He showed quite possibly the worst decision in twenty years or more of politics by selecting Joe Biden. If this is the type of management style we can expect, this country is worse off than even the Bush haters can imagine.