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The Generation of Jesus Christ - What It Means

JD731

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The very first thing one is introduced to when he opens the New Testament scriptures is the subject of the New Testament, the generation of Jesus Christ.

Mt 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

The biblical definition of a generation is found in the oldest Psalm in the scriptures, a Psalm of Moses, Psalm 90. This Psalm is all about time. It says this about a generation.

Ps 90:10 The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.

For those who struggle with the King James Bible it is generally accepted that a score is 20 years, so threescore years adds up to 60 years with 10 additional years being 70 years.

The 70 years generation of Jesus Christ is what is under scrutiny of the New Testament. This context is presented to the reader only in the limits of the Hebrews This is the generation that is tasked by God to recognize and to receive the promised Messianic King of Israel and Saviour of Israel and all nations of the world. It is important in this light that one understands and appreciate Jesus in his own statement as to his purpose for coming into the world. Here!

Lu 24:44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the (OT) scriptures,
46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: (He breathed the Holy Spirit into them Jn 20)
47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
48 And ye are witnesses of these things.

This context is in the singular form of the word generation. It is instructive where it is found in scriptures and where it is not. It is in

13 Verses in Matthew
4 verses in Mark
13 Verses in Luke
0 Verses in John
4 Verses in Acts 1-8
1 1Peter 2:9 - A chosen generation, a previously divided nation in the covenant relationship with God through whom he would make the Jews jealous and fulfil his promises to them, but they too turned back before the dispersion in 70 AD and it left only gentiles to be saved.

The final appeal to this generation.

Ac 28:23 And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening.

Acts 28:24 And some believed the things which were spoken, and some believed not.
25 And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, after that Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers,
26 Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive:
27 For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.
29 And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves.
30 And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house, and received all that came in unto him,
31 Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.

This following is a most incredible statement.

Luke 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

The fullness of the gentiles will have come in and God, having raised the nation Israel from the dead will continue his dealing with her under the same circumstances as they were under previous to the dispersion and once again "the gospel of the kingdom is at hand" will be preached and believers in Christ and his kingdom will be saved. The gospel of the grace of God has been preached to the gentile church since AD 70 and the church has been gathered into heaven and this gospel of the kingdom has different principles. God has reestablished Israel to her land in AD 1948 in preparation of completing what he started with the generation of Jesus Christ, fulfilling all the prophets and Psalms and Moses wrote of him that were not fulfilled at his first coming because of the resistance and unbelief of the Jews of that generation.

Can we talk about this?
 

Aaron

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Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. - Matthew 5:17-18

For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. ... For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof. - Hebrews 7:12, 18
 

Ascetic X

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The gospel of the grace of God has been preached to the gentile church since AD 70 and the church has been gathered into heaven and this gospel of the kingdom has different principles. God has reestablished Israel to her land in AD 1948 in preparation of completing what he started with the generation of Jesus Christ, fulfilling all the prophets and Psalms and Moses wrote of him that were not fulfilled at his first coming because of the resistance and unbelief of the Jews of that generation.

Can we talk about this?
The gentile church has been gathered into heaven?

You and I are still on earth.

I guess we missed the Rapture!
 

JD731

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It does not say “generation” in Matthew 1, it says “genealogy”. The context in a clear, a genealogy of Jesus Christ is presented.

Peace to you
I have the utmost confidence in my Bible and it's accuracy and would never misquote it on purpose. I copied and pasted from Bible Gateway web page. Sorry for any confusion.
 

JD731

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The very first thing one is introduced to when he opens the New Testament scriptures is the subject of the New Testament, the generation of Jesus Christ.

Mt 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

The biblical definition of a generation is found in the oldest Psalm in the scriptures, a Psalm of Moses, Psalm 90. This Psalm is all about time. It says this about a generation.

Ps 90:10 The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.

For those who struggle with the King James Bible it is generally accepted that a score is 20 years, so threescore years adds up to 60 years with 10 additional years being 70 years.

The 70 years generation of Jesus Christ is what is under scrutiny of the New Testament. This context is presented to the reader only in the limits of the Hebrews This is the generation that is tasked by God to recognize and to receive the promised Messianic King of Israel and Saviour of Israel and all nations of the world. It is important in this light that one understands and appreciate Jesus in his own statement as to his purpose for coming into the world. Here!

Lu 24:44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the (OT) scriptures,
46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: (He breathed the Holy Spirit into them Jn 20)
47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
48 And ye are witnesses of these things.

This context is in the singular form of the word generation. It is instructive where it is found in scriptures and where it is not. It is in

13 Verses in Matthew
4 verses in Mark
13 Verses in Luke
0 Verses in John
4 Verses in Acts 1-8
1 1Peter 2:9 - A chosen generation, a previously divided nation in the covenant relationship with God through whom he would make the Jews jealous and fulfil his promises to them, but they too turned back before the dispersion in 70 AD and it left only gentiles to be saved.

The final appeal to this generation.

Ac 28:23 And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening.

Acts 28:24 And some believed the things which were spoken, and some believed not.
25 And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, after that Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers,
26 Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive:
27 For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.
29 And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves.
30 And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house, and received all that came in unto him,
31 Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.

This following is a most incredible statement.

Luke 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

The fullness of the gentiles will have come in and God, having raised the nation Israel from the dead will continue his dealing with her under the same circumstances as they were under previous to the dispersion and once again "the gospel of the kingdom is at hand" will be preached and believers in Christ and his kingdom will be saved. The gospel of the grace of God has been preached to the gentile church since AD 70 and the church has been gathered into heaven and this gospel of the kingdom has different principles. God has reestablished Israel to her land in AD 1948 in preparation of completing what he started with the generation of Jesus Christ, fulfilling all the prophets and Psalms and Moses wrote of him that were not fulfilled at his first coming because of the resistance and unbelief of the Jews of that generation.

Can we talk about this?
Thank you for posting this. I understand the passages differently because Scripture uses ‘generation’ in several ways, not only as a 70‑year period. Matthew 1:1, for example, refers to lineage, not a time span. But I appreciate you sharing your perspective.
 

JD731

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Thank you for posting this. I understand the passages differently because Scripture uses ‘generation’ in several ways, not only as a 70‑year period. Matthew 1:1, for example, refers to lineage, not a time span. But I appreciate you sharing your perspective.
Thank you Anthony. I would want to be sure that there were no prophecies concerning Jesus Christ in the Law of Moses or the prophets or the Psalms that was left unfulfilled when Jesus came. He said he came to fulfill all the things concerning him. The generation he was born into put the King of the Jews to death and is just one of the things concerning him that was hindered by this generation, causing the delay of his kingdom and their own curse.

The response of God, delaying the kingdom and forming a gentile bride in the interim, who will be both his body and his bride in the same way that Eve was taken from the body of Adam and later given him as a wife to be with him for life while God prepared his people the Jews for the fulfillment of the remainder of those prophecies that are yet unfulfilled. The church could never do what only Jesus Christ can do.
 
Thank you Anthony. I would want to be sure that there were no prophecies concerning Jesus Christ in the Law of Moses or the prophets or the Psalms that was left unfulfilled when Jesus came. He said he came to fulfill all the things concerning him. The generation he was born into put the King of the Jews to death and is just one of the things concerning him that was hindered by this generation, causing the delay of his kingdom and their own curse.

The response of God, delaying the kingdom and forming a gentile bride in the interim, who will be both his body and his bride in the same way that Eve was taken from the body of Adam and later given him as a wife to be with him for life while God prepared his people the Jews for the fulfillment of the remainder of those prophecies that are yet unfulfilled. The church could never do what only Jesus Christ can do.
Brother, I not only agree that every prophecy concerning Christ in the Law of Moses, the prophets, and the Psalms was fulfilled, but I see those fulfillments as a few predetermined acts of God. They were fixed in his counsel because they concerned the Person and work of his Son. That is very different from the idea of predeterminism applied to individual salvation. The Scriptures never teach that God predetermined who would believe and who would not. They do teach that the sufferings of Christ and the glory that should follow were settled beforehand. Acts 2:23 says he was delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God. Nothing was really hindered, nothing was really postponed, and nothing concerning his first coming was ever in danger. It was all part of the plan.

The way I picture it is simple. The Old Testament train has taken a siding while the Church Age express is rolling along. When the express has passed, the Old Testament train comes off the siding and continues on its appointed track. Every part of God’s timetable moves exactly as he purposed, without any generation delaying or derailing what he has determined concerning his Son. Yours in Him ~Tony
 

KenH

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Do you have an opinion about the rebuke of the generation of Israel whose charge it was to receive their promised Messiah and was rebuked and charged with the unpardonable sin for their failure?

1) The purpose of ancient Israel was to provide the human body of the "seed of the woman" to pay the sin debt of those God chose before the world began and gave to His Son to be their Surety, their sins being imputed to Him and His perfect righteousness being imputed to them. After physical Israel fulfilled this purpose, they were destroyed as a nation in 70 A.D. The modern nation called Israel is not connected to ancient Israel in a Biblical sense, as that purpose was completed almost 2000 years ago.

2) Ancient Israel also showed that having the Law of Moses did not enable them to deal with their sin issue, just as the Gentiles without the Law of Moses were not able to deal with their sin issue. See Romans 1:18-3:20.

Also, the apostle Paul wrote to the Christians in Rome and in Galatia who the true Israel is, the true Jews:

Romans 2:28-29 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
but he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter;
whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Galatians 3:28-29 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
 
1) The purpose of ancient Israel was to provide the human body of the "seed of the woman" to pay the sin debt of those God chose before the world began and gave to His Son to be their Surety, their sins being imputed to Him and His perfect righteousness being imputed to them. After physical Israel fulfilled this purpose, they were destroyed as a nation in 70 A.D. The modern nation called Israel is not connected to ancient Israel in a Biblical sense, as that purpose was completed almost 2000 years ago.

2) Ancient Israel also showed that having the Law of Moses did not enable them to deal with their sin issue, just as the Gentiles without the Law of Moses were not able to deal with their sin issue. See Romans 1:18-3:20.

Also, the apostle Paul wrote to the Christians in Rome and in Galatia who the true Israel is, the true Jews:

Romans 2:28-29 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
but he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter;
whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Galatians 3:28-29 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Israel did bring forth the Messiah, the Seed of the woman. That purpose is complete. But the covenants God made with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob were not cancelled when Christ came. They were called everlasting covenants.

Genesis 17:7 “And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant.”

God did not say the covenant would last only until Christ came. He said everlasting.

The destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. was judgment, not cancellation. The prophets spoke of both judgment and later restoration.

Jeremiah 31:35‑36 “Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night… If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.”

God ties the continued existence of Israel as a nation to the continued existence of the sun, moon, and stars. Those are still here.

Paul makes a distinction between spiritual identity and national identity. Romans 2:28‑29 is about individual salvation. It does not erase national Israel.

Paul is very clear about this in Romans 11.

Romans 11:1 “Hath God cast away his people? God forbid.”

Romans 11:26 “And so all Israel shall be saved.”

Paul does not say “Israel was destroyed in 70 A.D.” He says Israel has a future.

Galatians 3:28‑29 speaks of spiritual inheritance in Christ. It does not cancel the promises God made to the fathers.

Romans 15:8 “Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers.”

Christ came to confirm the promises, not to cancel them.

Modern Israel is not perfect, but their existence is not an accident. God promised they would be scattered and later regathered.

Ezekiel 36:24 “For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.”

That happened in our lifetime.

The Bible teaches both truths at once.

  1. Salvation is in Christ alone, for Jew and Gentile alike.
  2. God’s covenant with national Israel is not cancelled.
Both are true. Scripture holds them together. We should too.
 

canadyjd

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I have the utmost confidence in my Bible and it's accuracy and would never misquote it on purpose. I copied and pasted from Bible Gateway web page. Sorry for any confusion.
Ok, does your Bible say “generation” or “genealogy”? Knowing context determines meaning, it seems clear the context of Matthew 1 is a genealogy, or do you disagree?

Peace to you
 

Martin Marprelate

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Ok, does your Bible say “generation” or “genealogy”? Knowing context determines meaning, it seems clear the context of Matthew 1 is a genealogy, or do you disagree?

Peace to you
The word which the KJV translates as 'generation' in Matthew 1:1 is, interestingly, genesis. Perhaps 'origin' might have been a good translation? The word used 36 times elsewhere for 'generation' (e.g. Matt. 1:17; 11:16; Luke 1:48) is genea. Gennema is used four times as 'generation of vipers,' and genos appears once as 'a chosen generation' in 1 Peter 2:9.
The word 'genealogy' appears in the KJV only once as a translation of genealogia in Titus 3:9.
I'm not sure how helpful that lot is. Make of it what you will. :)
 

David Lamb

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Ok, does your Bible say “generation” or “genealogy”? Knowing context determines meaning, it seems clear the context of Matthew 1 is a genealogy, or do you disagree?

Peace to you
The KJV and the ASV say "generation." The NKJV, MKJV, YLT, LSB, NET, and ESV all say "genealogy." My concordance has the following entry on the word translated into English as "generation" or "genealogy":

"1078 genesis [ghen -es-is]

from the same as 1074; n f; TDNT-1:682,117; [{See TDNT 156 }]

AV-generation 1, natural 1, nature 1; 3

1) source, origin
1a) a book of one s lineage, i.e. in which his ancestry or progeny are enumerated
2) used of birth, nativity
3) of that which follows origin, viz. existence, life
3a) the wheel of life (Jas 3:6), other explain it, the wheel of human origin which as soon as men are born begins to run, i.e. its course of life"
 

JD731

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@DavidLamb, @Martin Marprelate @canadyjd

You guys seems to always approach the Bible academically first. But God is a Spirit who became a man. He devised and presented a solution to the sin problem, sin that corrupted his creation and separated us from a holy God. He did this by establishing a promise to come into the world as a physical man like us to eliminated the corruption and the problem. He needed a highway for the seed since to become a man he must have a Father and a mother. Since the corruption comes through the seed and the seed comes through the father, God himself must provide the seed and the physical body would be produced in the womb of the woman. The result would be a soul and mortal body, a man through the woman but the eternal Spirit of the eternal Father likewise an eternal component of his being. It can be said of Jesus Christ that he is both God and man by physical birth, the only man who has ever been or who ever will be. He is not the one and only unique son of God but he is the only begotten son of God.

We know (if we believe the words of the Bible) that it is possible for physical women to be impregnated by spiritual beings because it happened in Ge 6 when those spiritual beings called the sons of God came into women whom they chose and sons were born to them. These were beings without a human soul but physically they were men. The angelic fathers of this class were judged by God for their sins and chained in the pit awaiting the judgement of the great day but their hybrid offspring corrupted the highway of the seed of the woman to the extent that when God rescued it there was only one man to whom it could be said;

Genesis 6:9
These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

Why do we need to know that Noah was perfect in his generations. I think because he was the last one who was since all living perished in the judgement of the world wide flood and it was not until Methuselah (when he is dead it shall com) died that the judgement came. This was the attempt of Satan to corrupt the highway of the seed of the woman to prevent the salvation of the world though his own son, Jesus Christ.

My point for this post is to ask you why not use your intellect while believing what has been taught to you through the words and testimony of the scriptures to arrive at sound doctrine. There are none of us smart enough to figure it out on our own.

Jesus Christ is the only begotten son of God and he is a physical man through a woman. He would have accomplished all that was written of his work in 70 years plus 10 years if his generation would have believed in him. But..... as he said, Satan was their father in spirit and the lust of their father they did.

The real truth is that he is going to accomplished his work through this generation because during the church age they have been dead and buried in the nations of the world. They have been resurrected as a nation and soon the church will be full and removed and all the principles of that time will be back in place and God will save all who are left alive in Israel and Jesus will be back ruling from Jerusalem.

Time does not pass for dead thing.

Ro 11:15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?

This is what I believe. You can believe what you want.

 
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