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Digital Globe's Alleged "NATO" Satellite Images

It turns out that the man the U.S. State Department chose to handle the latest phase of Russia demonization played an integral role in the toppling of the Ukrainian government.

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Now Russia has come out to call these images fake, and until the dust settles on this it's a bit premature to call it one way or another, but even while the jury is out on the technical side, we have one major red flag already. It turns out that the man that the U.S. State Department has put in charge of pushing this story is none other than our good friend Geoffrey Pyatt.

http://scgnews.com/exposed-us-diplomat-behind-artillery-intel-was-directly-involved-in-the-toppling-of-yanukovich

 

Poncho, aren't you hypocritical for thinking it is okay for others to be forced to live under Putin but you can't even deny that you don't want to live under Putin yourself, but then you give the impression that you are so much better than the rest of us?

 

Do you lay awake all night thinking up ways to reword the same old fallacy over and over and over and over or does it just come naturally?

I asked you to provide evidence to back your allegations. You have not done so. Instead all you have done is use the same old "guilt by association" fallacy to hide behind.

The fact that you cannot show us the evidence that would support your allegations doesn't make me better than anyone. But it does show that you would rather believe in fairy tales that reinforce your fears and biases than thinking critically.

You don't answer questions. You don't show evidence. You just keep repeating the same old baloney over and over.

Admit you've been neoconned again and learn from it, like men do.

In the meantime . . . back to reality.

OBAMA TO ARM UKRAINIAN NEO-NAZI MILITANTS?

A new bill introduced in the U.S. Senate yesterday would authorize the Obama administration to send $350 million dollars worth of sophisticated weapons technology to Ukraine despite the fact that neo-nazi militants are openly fighting alongside Kiev forces.

The bipartisan Ukraine Freedom Support Act of 2014, introduced by Senators Robert Menendez (D-NJ) and Bob Corker (R-TN), is set to be discussed by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee later today.

Despite attempts to de-escalate the crisis in Ukraine after a shaky cease fire was called, the legislation would intensify sanctions against Russia, forcing Moscow to “pay an increasingly heavy price” for its “aggression” in the region. The bill would also authorize President Obama to provide military assistance to Ukraine to the tune of $350 million dollars.

From the bill;

Read More At: http://www.infowars.com/obama-to-arm-ukrainian-neo-nazi-militants/

 

Ukraine crisis: the neo-Nazi brigade fighting pro-Russian separatists

Kiev throws paramilitaries – some openly neo-Nazi - into the front of the battle with rebels

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“Personally, I’m a Nazi,” said “Phantom”, a 23-year-old former lawyer at the ceremony wearing camouflage and holding a Kalashnikov. “I don’t hate any other nationalities but I believe each nation should have its own country.” He added: “We have one idea: to liberate our land from terrorists.”

Read More At: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/11025137/Ukraine-crisis-the-neo-Nazi-brigade-fighting-pro-Russian-separatists.html


Preparing for War With Ukraine's Fascist Defenders of Freedom

On the frontlines of the new offensive in eastern Ukraine, the hardcore Azov Battalion is ready for battle with Russia. But they're not fighting for Europe, either.

Read More At: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2014/08/30/preparing_for_war_with_ukraine_s_fascist_defenders_of_freedom

So, CMG would you rather live in Ukraine so you could join one these neo nazi brigades?

 

It is good enough for others to live under Putin but not good enough for Poncho to live under Putin.

 

In other words, CMG doesn't have any other argument other than repeating his worn out fallacy a thousand times over. :laugh:


"Willfully blind to the evidence is he" Yoda

 

Folks, there is not even the minimal effort to make a denial here.

 

http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=2146381&postcount=70

Guess I should have made it bigger. :sleep:

http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=2145655&postcount=46

Tune in tomorrow same neocon time, same neocon channel to find out if CMG can reword the same old worn out fallacy to try to hide the fact he has no credible evidence to support his "official" conspiracy theory yet again. :wavey:

 

It is amazing that anyone can say that people should have to live under the cold-blooded murder named Putin. The blood of the dead calls out but a certain crowd is deaf.

 

What's really amazing is that you can reword the same old fallacy a thousand and one ways without blinking. :laugh:

 

The proof that KGB (Gestapo) Putin is a cold-blooded murderer is not only the blood of his victims but the fact that no one wants to say that they want to live under him.

 

What are you saying exactly? Because Putin is a "bad guy" makes it okay for you to make allegations you can't support with evidence and keep insinuating that I'm a traitor just for asking you to provide evidence to support your unfounded claims?

Wow! That's about the most absurd nonsensical excuse for spreading unfounded propaganda I've ever heard.

You should work for the Obama administration you're starting to think just like them. Wait a minute, by spreading Obama's unfounded allegations the way you have been you are already working for the Obama administration!

Dutch MH17 Investigation Omits US “Intel”

The absence of America’s so-called “intelligence” regarding the downing of Malaysia Airlines MH17 over Ukraine in a 34 page Dutch Safety Board preliminary report raises serious questions about the credibility and legitimacy of both America’s political agenda, and all agencies, organizations, and political parties currently behind it.

The report titled, “Preliminary Report: Crash involving Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777-200 flight MH17″ (.pdf), cites a wide variety of evidence in its attempt to determine the cause of flight MH17′s crash and to prevent similar accidents or incidents from occurring again in the future. Among this evidence includes the cockpit voice recorder (CVR), the flight data recorder (FDR), analysis of recorded air traffic control (ATC) surveillance data and radio communication, analysis of the meteorological circumstances, forensic examination of the wreckage (if recovered and possible foreign objects if found), results of the pathological investigation, and analysis of the in-flight break up sequence.

Satellite images are referenced in regards to analyzing the crash site after the disaster, however, no where in the report is mentioned any evidence whatsoever of satellite images of missile launchers, intelligence from the United States regarding missile launches, or any information or evidence at all in any regard suggesting a missile had destroyed MH17. In fact, the report concludes by stating:

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Had the US actually possessed any credible information to substantiate its claims that MH17 was shot down by a missile, such evidence surely would have been submitted to and included in the Dutch Safety Board’s preliminary reporting. That it is predictably missing confirms what commentators, analysts, and politicians around the world had long since suspected – the West’s premature conclusions regarding MH17′s demise were driven by a political agenda, not a factually based search for the truth. The evidence that MH17 was shot down by a missile as the West insisted is missing because it never existed in the first place.

Read More At: http://journal-neo.org/2014/09/19/dutch-mh17-investigation-omits-us-intel/

Washington has no more evidence to support it's allegations than CMG does, imagine that.

 

No one has ever insinuated anything about you but you keep make accusations. I asked you if you wanted to live under Gestapo Putin and you declined to answer so it is correctly assumed that you want others to live under the murderer but you do not want to live under him. Isn't that the epitome of hypocrisy?

Revelation 20:8 (KJV) And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom [is] as the sand of the sea.

 

So now you've taken to lying?

Is the need to believe Washington's lies so powerful with you that you'll even resort to lying about what you've already committed to text (that anyone can go back and read) in order to conceal the truth from yourself?

What's hypocritical is how you and your buddies demand that myself and other's prove every word we say while you can go on making one unfounded allegation after another never offering proof and refusing to provide it even after you've been asked to provide it several times over.

What's hypocritical is you insinuating I'm a traitor because I asked you to provide evidence (which is now very obvious you cannot) to support your allegations. And the way in which you've chosen to hide the fact you don't have any evidence to support your allegations.

Now you've gone to the extreme and started lying about what you've done for eleven pages.

Is believing Washington's lies so important to you that you'll become a liar yourself just to keep believing in them?

Sanction-Drunk West Forgets to Target ISIS Sponsors

As the US and Europe prepare another round of sanctions against Russia over the ongoing Ukrainian conflict, the third round of such sanctions since the conflict began shortly after the Euromaidan unrest resulted in the installation of a NATO-backed regime in Kiev, a curious and inexplicable oversight appears to have been made.

While wild accusations have been leveled against Russia over its involvement over the violence in Ukraine, claims ranging from covert support up to and including unsubstantiated claims of a “full scale invasion,” prominent media organizations across the Western World have for years reported a flow of cash, weapons, equipment and fighters from America’s allies in the Persian Gulf as well as from nations like NATO member Turkey, and into the conflict raging within Syria’s borders.

While baseless claims leveled against Russia have served as ample justification for the West to continue leveling sanctions against Moscow, no sanctions have as of yet been leveled against the overt sponsors of militancy and, in fact, terrorism in Syria. So widespread has state-sponsored terrorism become in the Middle East that what began as a limited proxy war against Syria has transformed into an immense regional army with tens of thousands of paid soldiers requiring millions of dollars a day to operate across multiple borders and confounding the forces of Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon combined.

ISIS is State-Sponsored, So Why Aren’t These States Being Sanctioned?

Clearly, the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria also known as ISIS or ISIL, are the benefactors of vast state-sponsorship and yet the West has not identified nor condemned these sponsors, let alone move toward leveling sanctions similar to what it is seeking to impose upon Moscow.

News articles by prominent British and American news outlets like the Daily Beast’s “America’s Allies Are Funding ISIS,” the London Telegraph’s “How Isil is funded, trained and operating in Iraq and Syria,” and the Daily Mail’s “Cameron tells European leaders to ‘be good to their word’ and stop funding ISIS with ransom payments,” give explanations ranging from outright admissions that Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Jordan, and Turkey are directly arming, funding, aiding and abetting ISIS, to descriptions that read like an immense money laundering operation, to ridiculous claims including “ransom payments” and “robbed banks” have been behind ISIS’ regional rise to menace.

At one point in the Daily Beast’s article it claims, “the U.S. has made the case as strongly as they can to regional countries, including Kuwait. But ultimately when you take a hands off, leading from behind approach to things, people don’t take you seriously and they take matters into their own hands.” If ever there was a case to use sanctions to be “taken seriously,” it would appear to be in this case, yet sure enough, no sanctions appear to be on the table.

Systematic Hypocrisy Undermines Legitimacy

Read More At: http://journal-neo.org/2014/09/21/sanction-drunk-west-forgets-to-target-isis-sponsors/

You have for the last eleven pages defended some of the biggest lying hypocrites (and their lies) on the planet CMG. You've willingly joined their camp and helped them spread their lies. And now you're forced to even lie to yourself to go on believing their lies.

It's a sad thing to witness. Just admit you were neo-conned again and learn from it, like men do.

 

No one ever insinuated anything about you, Poncho. You don't want to live under the gestapo leader Putin but you think that it is okay for others. Have you ever heard of the evil empire?

 

Bull. You've tried to paint me as a traitor in this thread right from the start. You know it and so does everyone else here who have had to sit through the many re-wordings of your "guilt by association" fallacy.

It's Orwellian that you keep trying to associate Putin with nazis when it's been Washington, the EU and you that have been the Ukrainian neo nazi brigades biggest supporters.

But then I'm talking about actual documented evidence which is something you seem to be avoiding like the plague in order to protect your false paradigm.

 

No one has tried to paint you as anything and you need to stop your false accusations.

 

I've been wondering if you were even conscious of how much you've relied on the "guilt by association" fallacy to support your unfounded allegations. I believe this latest denial in the face of all the evidence answers that question.

These pages are filled with your unfounded (false) accusations and now you're telling me I need to stop making false accusations? :laugh:

Hypocritical much or what?

 

Obama Is Defeated in Ukraine. Status-Quo Truce-Lines Agreed.

However, the foreign-affairs leader of the Ukrainian separatists says that their efforts to get Russia’s President Vladimir Putin to accept their territory as being a part of Russia have been firmly rejected by Putin’s Government; and, so, “We will build our own country.”

This important statement from the foreign-affairs leader Andrei Purgin on Wednesday, September 17th, was not headlined nor even the topic of any U.S. news report; it was instead inconspicuously buried halfway through an AP news story that focused on “East Ukraine Casualties.” It’s common for propagandistic news reports, such as characterize the U.S. media, to bury what’s important in the news story, and not even to headline that crucial information, when that information violates the regime’s propaganda that they’ve been trumpeting. So: this information was buried, and was not headlined. The American media had portrayed Putin as the aggressor behind Ukraine’s war, and had hidden that Obama was actually the aggressor. The extremely violent February 22nd overthrow of Ukraine’s President Viktor Yanukovych was, as this proves, a fascist coup by the U.S. And as the transcript of the phone conversation between two EU officials shown here documents, they recognized on February 25th that it had been precisely that. Furthermore, President Obama’s agent, Victoria Nuland, on February 4th, had already selected Arseniy Yatsenyuk, whom she affectionately referred to there as “Yats,” to run the country. And her U.S.-engineered coup in Ukraine didn’t occur until February 22nd, and it then installed “Yats” to run the country.

So, this news, that Putin didn’t even want the Ukrainian rebels’ territory, was not something that U.S. media intend the U.S. public to recognize suddenly; it’s instead like the non-existent “Saddam’s WMD” that they had trumpeted during 2002 and 2003 but that were all lies — something to be laid only gradually upon their deceived public, so the masses won’t even notice that they had been lied to.

Read More At: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/obama-defeated-ukraine-status-quo-truce-lines-agreed.html

 

Your false charges are baseless. Putin won in the Ukraine and you denied that he was even on the march. You could care less that people have to live under the gestapo/KGB and you do not deny that Nazis and Communists had a non-aggression pact and divided Poland between themselves in September 1939.