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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by evangelist6589, Feb 17, 2017.

  1. evangelist6589

    evangelist6589 Well-Known Member
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    Reading this book and the author has been arguing against the view that we have temporary bodies after we die. This is a widely held position so what do you say?
     
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    Our soul/spirit depart from body to be with Jesus, and we get our next body at second coming event!
     
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    So you do not believe in a temporary body?
     
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    It is?
     
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    Not as a casper..... we wi il exist in soul/spirit form, whatever that is!
    Who holds to it?
     
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    Lutzer at least believes in a temporary body.
     
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    2 Cor 5 1 ¶ For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
    2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:
    3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.
    4 For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.
     
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    What's your source? (Not doubting you, but want to compare).


    “The New Testament doctrine of the resurrection is an affirmation that we are a spiritual and physical unity and that God intends to put us back together again. Although the soul is separable from the body, such a separation is only temporary. If we are to live forever, we must be brought together as a united human being—body, soul, and spirit.” Erwin Lutzer One Minute After You Die, pg. 77[
     
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    What would it be like?
     
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    JonC Lifelong Disciple
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    Mine would be tall, dark and handsome. I suspect other's would look like Woody Allen.
     
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    I think the Spiritual Realm is not only as physical as this one, but more so.

    So in other words, the "body" the spirit of the departed have is, in that realm (whether Hades or Heaven), physical. We would have to embrace the caricature so often portrayed of a wispy existence which is not the view Scripture gives, in my opinion. Has Christ gone to build a place for us that has no substance? Is it not a city that will be inhabited by the People of God, who will have a spiritual/physical body?


    God bless.
     
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    I thought it was a podcast.
     
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    Think part of the confusion is some see paul describing a spiritual body in 1 Cor 15, but I see that as the physical resurrected form, now changed to live forever!
     
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    You mean you would look just like me? :D
     
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    God would tell me" 2 out of 3 not bad!"
     
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    Now that you mention it, yes, exactly like you. Except tall, dark and handsome. :D
     
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    And that's the thing, it is a spiritual body, but it is physical as well.


    1 Corinthians 15:44-46

    King James Version (KJV)

    44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.


    45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.


    46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.



    I view this as a reference to the glorified saint, but, the point is still that what is spiritual has substance. In other words what is spiritual can be viewed as "physical," rather than without substance. When we are glorified, in my view, we will be suitable for both realms (physical and spiritual), whereas now we are only suited to the physical and cannot pass to that realm by any means.


    God bless.
     
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    Think that is correct, as the spiritul body will be the physical one changed into a state able to exist forever!
     
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    Woody Allen would be an upgrade for me.
     
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