The J6 tapes finally released

[JonC]

Did you watch the video?

Would like your thoughts on another topic relative to J6.

How many votes do, "YOU," think Joe Biden received on November 3 plus dates before and after November 3, 2020?

Just, "your," estimate is fine.


I do wonder if there would have been an insurrection had Trump tallied 100 million votes.

I don't know how many votes he received. I know that some of the claims of fraud were false, but I believe many were not.

But I do believe that there were enough electoral certificates (which is what matters outside of the state level) to install Biden.

I don't believe that was an insurrection. It was a riot with some there to protest, but it is obvious that many came to riot (they came with weapons...one had two guns on him and several in his truck....with gas masks, chemical spray, baseball bats, batons, radios, and the funniest part - that ax).

I watched the video of the woman climbing through that window and being shot. That's the only one I saw.

 

[Wingman68]

The OP was of recently released video. If you don’t watch the video, your participation in this thread is nothing but previously held opinion. It’s verbose & inane. So…….what…...you have nothing but time on your hands…….but no time to watch the video.

 

[JonC]

My concern here is the alt- right making a criminal a hero (like George Floyd). The question should be whether excessive force was used. But regardless, she was a criminal.


Here is what I have found:

1. Trump lied and said the protest was an unarmed protest while many had weapons (they came to riot). And over 100 police officers were injured. And windows were broken, property damaged.

Trump did what the Democrats did with the riots a few years ago. They called them "peaceful protests". Jan 6 was EXACTLY the same thing. Thugs attacking the police and damaging property with the tax payers having to pay to repair.

2. Trump lied and said that Babbitt was peacefully protesting and the police shot her in the head.

She was not peacefully protesting and was shot in the left shoulder.

3. The alt-right lied and said she was not trying to enter through the window but was trying to keep others from entering.

This shows the Alt-Right knew the significance of entering the Senate Lobby. But Babbitt was shot while actually climbing through that window (her left leg was already in).

4. The alt-right knows the significance of the public accessable areas and the areas closed to the public at the time by the fact that they lie and say Babbitt was trying to keep others from entering that area.

5. The Alt-right makes Babbitt, a criminal, into a hero. They replace her flag with an American flag in paintings.....just like the left dud with George Floyd.

 

[JonC]

The OP was of recently released video. If you don’t watch the video, your participation in this thread is nothing but previously held opinion. It’s verbose & inane. So…….what…...you have nothing but time on your hands…….but no time to watch the video.

Oh...that video. Yes, I watched it. (I thought he was talking about the video I had posted or one he had posted).

I dismissed it when I got to the Babbitt trying to keep the guy in the backpack from entering because it was a lie. Watching the video (of the shooting) this is disconnected. She WAS trying to enter through the window. That guy with the blue cap left from in front of the window when the officer said to stop or he'd shoot.

Also, the video ignores the rioters beating police, carrying weapons, breaking windows, etc.

 

[JonC]

In the investigation communication was criticized. A couple of officers did let people in. Many officers were suspended and investigated.

At the same time those "peaceful protestors" attacked police officers.

Several officers sustained brain injuries.

One officer had two cracked ribs and two smashed spinal discs.

One officer lost his eye.

An officer was stabbed with a metal stake.

Over 100 officers were injured.

 

[Wingman68]

Tarik Johnson
@elleonCEOTK


UPDATE: I spoke to my lawyer and I told him what my plans are as it relates to releasing information on X about the J6 set-up and the cover-up that ensued after. I wanted to see what if any legal ramifications I’d be facing when I do. He stated he didn’t see any and if something arose we would deal with it together. So it’s a go!!!!!!!!!!!!! With that said, I ask for everyone to be patient as I’m going to do this right and I have to make another post before I load the 12-hour radio run to my page. Additionally, I am not a tech person so I will also have to learn to load large documents and audio files from my computer to X so I’m going to need a little more time. I still have to work in the middle of all this and I’m dealing with family stuff at the same time but you have my word I will get everything done by next week. Hopefully by Wednesday. Some worry that something may happen to me prior to releasing the info. You can rest easy with that. Tom Fitton of Judical Watch has the info along with my attorney. Also
@TPC4USA
(who you all should be following) has permission to receive the info and do whatever he believes is best with that info in the unlikely event I disappear. The man only wants the truth no matter where it leads. Please know that I am fighting for EVERYONE that was aggrieved from the events of J6 and UNITY in our country. I’m not doing this for any financial gain now or in the future but for the reasons I listed above by order of the God I serve. I am a LION and I will protect my cubs. In this case they are EVERYONE in the J6 community as you were set-up and that should not have happened to you even if you did wrong things that day. The police from all 17 agencies that responded to the Capitol to defend it as we should have been more prepared that day. All the people that died on J6 or as a result from that day. All whistleblowers from every agency that put their careers in jeopardy and or lost them because they wanted the truth out and saw what was happening to US citizens because of J6. Thank you for listening and God bless the greatest nation in the world and all the people in it. Tarik K Johnson Former Lieutenant US Capitol Police


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[JonC]

@Wingman68

I don't see why there would be any legal consequences for you sharing your opinions of the Jan 6 riots or even those who actually went there to legitimately protest.

It is good to look at different perspectives.

The Leftists would have us believe that every person there were beating cops, breaking windows, trying to get to the House or Senate officials, threatening Pence, etc.

But we know that was not the case.

It is undeniable that a lot of police officers were attacked and injured, several with permanent injuries.

It is undeniable that a lot of the rioters illegally carried weapons on the Capitol grounds.

It is undeniable that a lot of rioters committed crimes akin to the riots we saw in Democrat cities.

It is undeniable that every person who entered the Capitol on Jan 6 broke the law by entering a government building that was closed to the public.

BUT it would be interesting to learn about those who were there to legitimately protest.


My complaint of the aftermath of Jan 6 is twofold

The Leftists want to villainize everybody who were there.

The alt-right wants us to make criminals heros (in a George Floyd fashion).

Both views are dishonest.


My opinion is to convict the criminals.

If a rioter injured a police officer they go to jail.

The rioters who cost the police officer an eye, broke another's spine and ribs, and stabbed another with a metal stake gets tried for attempted murder.

The rioters that sprayed chemical spray on police officers go to jail.

Rioters that carried weapons on Capitol grounds go to jail.

Rioters that broke windows and damaged property go to jail and repay the costs if the damages.

But the people who entered the Capitol and did not attack police officers, did not carry weapons, and did not damage property should only be convicted of Criminal Trespass for entering a government building closed to the public. This can be downgraded to simple trespass if they didn't go in with the mob.


Try the criminals. Be easier in those caught up in movement.


Do what should have been done in the Democrat city riots.

But tell all sides of the story.

 

[canadyjd]

Still they (the police) couldn’t have just arrested her?

Not sure where the police were as she crawled through the window, other than the officer in the chamber.

I wish they would have arrested her. I wish the officer had run up and pushed her out before she got in.

But that didn’t happen.

peace to you

 

[canadyjd]

Tarik Johnson
@elleonCEOTK


UPDATE: I spoke to my lawyer and I told him what my plans are as it relates to releasing information on X about the J6 set-up and the cover-up that ensued after. I wanted to see what if any legal ramifications I’d be facing when I do. He stated he didn’t see any and if something arose we would deal with it together. So it’s a go!!!!!!!!!!!!! With that said, I ask for everyone to be patient as I’m going to do this right and I have to make another post before I load the 12-hour radio run to my page. Additionally, I am not a tech person so I will also have to learn to load large documents and audio files from my computer to X so I’m going to need a little more time. I still have to work in the middle of all this and I’m dealing with family stuff at the same time but you have my word I will get everything done by next week. Hopefully by Wednesday. Some worry that something may happen to me prior to releasing the info. You can rest easy with that. Tom Fitton of Judical Watch has the info along with my attorney. Also
@TPC4USA
(who you all should be following) has permission to receive the info and do whatever he believes is best with that info in the unlikely event I disappear. The man only wants the truth no matter where it leads. Please know that I am fighting for EVERYONE that was aggrieved from the events of J6 and UNITY in our country. I’m not doing this for any financial gain now or in the future but for the reasons I listed above by order of the God I serve. I am a LION and I will protect my cubs. In this case they are EVERYONE in the J6 community as you were set-up and that should not have happened to you even if you did wrong things that day. The police from all 17 agencies that responded to the Capitol to defend it as we should have been more prepared that day. All the people that died on J6 or as a result from that day. All whistleblowers from every agency that put their careers in jeopardy and or lost them because they wanted the truth out and saw what was happening to US citizens because of J6. Thank you for listening and God bless the greatest nation in the world and all the people in it. Tarik K Johnson Former Lieutenant US Capitol Police


1:12 PM · Nov 30, 2023
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Right, and Adam Shift kept promising for years he would release the info that would prove DT’s Russian collusion.

I wouldn’t hold my breath.

peace to you

 

[JonC]

Not sure where the police were as she crawled through the window, other than the officer in the chamber.

I wish they would have arrested her. I wish the officer had run up and pushed her out before she got in.

But that didn’t happen.

peace to you

I agree. But I'm not sure that the officer physically going to stop her wouldn't spark the rest from taking the opportunity to storm in (that other glass was about gone) and then what we saw outside of the Capitol would be inside the Senate Lobby with access to the House Floor.

It is a situation that never should have occurred, period.

The Capitol should not have been damaged - windows should not have been busted out. Rioters should not have been climbing up the walls to get in. Police officers should not have been attacked.

None of that should have happened.

 

[Wingman68]

HE HAS THE PROOF: DC Gulag Political Prisoner and Decorated Army Special Forces Soldier Jeffrey McKellop Reveals Extent of Government Agents at J6 Capitol Protest - IT WAS A COMPLETE SET-UP! (Audio) | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Special forces veteran of 22 yrs. You might want to avail yourself of his story.

 

[Wingman68]

News Archives - American Gulag

 

[JonC]

HE HAS THE PROOF: DC Gulag Political Prisoner and Decorated Army Special Forces Soldier Jeffrey McKellop Reveals Extent of Government Agents at J6 Capitol Protest - IT WAS A COMPLETE SET-UP! (Audio) | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Special forces veteran of 22 yrs. You might want to avail yourself of his story.

I've heard conspiracies that the rioters and people with weapons were planted at the protests (mainly by extreme alt-right groups). I don't doubt that the majority were not bad players.

But if it was a "set up" then how stupid was those who fell for it. They must be idiots. Lol.

That's the problem with people today. They are much too easily controlled by emotion. It makes them the perfect targets for a set up.

Doesn't matter, though. If they thought it was OK to attack police officers, break windows, etc. then their stupidity still doesn't excuse being "set up".


That said, the logical conclusion is that a large portion of the mob started as protestors and just got caught up in the riot. This is known as "mob mentality". Get a bunch of emotionally charged people together it only takes a few bad apples to get them to cross a line.

 

[Reynolds]

Post it.

I see hundreds of police trying to keep the mob out. I'd be interested in seeing your video.

What it looks like to me is that at some point the police knew they had lost the Capitol and shifted to defend the House.

But I am interested in seeing the video.

Problem is after @Revmitchell 's post about the woman not trying to go through that window. That made me look it up. The claim was because of photo "evidence" where she touches another's backpack. Turns out it was false information given by the alt-right to make a criminal a hero and villainize the police.

This makes me doubt any narrative the alt-right offers. So I have to see for myself.

But I am interested. I don't doubt officers gave up, especially if it is a couple of officers versus the mob. But I would like to see the video.

I'm kinda bored sitting at home. Can't fish because I can't drive.

Can't play disc golf because I can't walk that much (I decided to take up disc golf ... Haven't played yet but got some discs).

All I have is our discussions for entertainment.

You're my Online BFF .

You cant find video long. It gets censored away. This link is up for now. jennybizh/status/1347549303020154880

 

[JonC]

You cant find video long. It gets censored away. This link is up for now. jennybizh/status/1347549303020154880

I watched the video.

But when I searched it two came up (one was the video debunking that video, and was from another angle showing where the officers were in relation to Trump supporters.

The officer was motioning to other officers (the crowd left to right in front of the Capitol).

The video is alt-right false propaganda (a real video but a false narrative).

You can see both videos (same officer waving the officers back).

Here are the two videos side by side:

That said, my question would be the police inside the Capitol that just stood by. (Given, I'm not sure what else they could have done)

 

[Wingman68]

I've heard conspiracies that the rioters and people with weapons were planted at the protests (mainly by extreme alt-right groups). I don't doubt that the majority were not bad players.

But if it was a "set up" then how stupid was those who fell for it. They must be idiots. Lol.

That's the problem with people today. They are much too easily controlled by emotion. It makes them the perfect targets for a set up.

Doesn't matter, though. If they thought it was OK to attack police officers, break windows, etc. then their stupidity still doesn't excuse being "set up".


That said, the logical conclusion is that a large portion of the mob started as protestors and just got caught up in the riot. This is known as "mob mentality". Get a bunch of emotionally charged people together it only takes a few bad apples to get them to cross a line.

Yeah, no one is stupid enough to defend women being beaten up, or literally killed, granny being literally thrown down a ten foot flight of cement steps…….no problem controlling your emotions I guess. Did you read Mckellop’s account?

 

[JonC]

Yeah, no one is stupid enough to defend women being beaten up, or literally killed, granny being literally thrown down a ten foot flight of cement steps…….no problem controlling your emotions I guess. Did you read Mckellop’s account?

I can't defend her because she was climbing through that window.

If she remained outside, then I'd say the officer used excessive force.

But as it was, the accounts of her trying to keep people back proved to be a lie, the picture of her hand on the guys backpack proved to be a false narrative, the claim she was not climbing through the door proved to be a lie (her left leg was on the other side when she was shot).

So all I have to go on is the facts of the event.....not what people think she thought, not what she did before the shooting.....only what occurred.


The objective facts are:

1. The officer yelled to the mob not to enter or he would shoot.

2. The guy with the blue cap stopped and went to the left door.

3. Babbitt climbed up and started to enter the hall - she rested her right foot on the sill and started stepping through with her left - her left foot and leg were on the officer's side of the door when he shot her in the left shoulder.

4. She fell back and died on the way to the hospital.


That's all I can go on. Not "he said she said" but actual facts.


Looking at the facts I cannot fault the officer. The officers had barricaded the doors trying to protect the House members (the Senate Lobby connects to the House Floor). That was the last obstacle.

Looking at the facts the claims that she was trying to stop people from entering is not only an admission they SHOULD NOT have entered but also that that claim is false as she was shot in the shoulder when her left leg was already on the other side and her other foot in the window.

I wish she hadn't tried to go through that window. But she did.

 

[JonC]

I am curious. Do people here believe that the riots in those Democrat cities when George Floyd was killed- the injuries, slandering law enforcement, destroying government buildings - were also just "peaceful protests"?

To me Jan 6 and the Dem City Riots are the same. A bunch of criminals having a tantrum because they were dissatisfied with something beyond their control. None of them (Jan 6 rioters or Dem City thugs) are patriots. They are all criminals and should be treated as such.

 

[JonC]

@Wingman68

I don't condone anybody getting beat up or killed. With Babbitt it was suicide by stupidity, but it is still a loss.

We can't forget, however, that they were criminals committing crimes - so there is another side - law enforcement.

How do you feel about the police officers being beaten?

I ask because I hear a lot from the alt-right about the rioters being hurt, but over 100 police officers were also beaten and injured, several being forced to retire due to their injuries.

 

[Wingman68]

I wasn’t talking about Ashli, I was talking about Roseanne Boyland, & the white haired woman wearing red white & blue who was thrown down the steps. Too bad they didn’t take pictures to share with the world of the injuries & beatings in the DC gulags. Again, did you read McKellop’s story? Or have you already determined he’s not worthy of your excess time? These pics are lame, btw, what made the perfect circles on the guy’s back…..must have been in the wrong place when the cops were firing rubber bullets on everybody.