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The King Makers

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Palatka51, Nov 17, 2008.

  1. Palatka51

    Palatka51 New Member

    Oct 25, 2007
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    In Judges chapter 8 it seems that the Israelites want to make Gideon king. He replies with this.

    One generation later they set Abimelech as king over them. God then destroys him in battle when a woman crushes his head with a millstone and his armor bearer runs him through with his sword.

    A few generations later the Israelites asked Samuel to make them a king when Samuel wanted to set his sons up for judges. They did not want his sons as they were corrupt. Then God said this to Samuel;

    The wisdom of Gideon was indeed in line with God's will for His people. However God is letting them have their way in this and there is a key difference in why God is doing this. The people are asking the man of God's choice (Samuel) to anoint a king when before they indiscriminately sought to crown Gideon and then Abimelech. The people are now imposing their will to have God make them like the rest of the world's kingdoms. Samuel was going to do this of his own accord through his sons but the people would have nothing of it. God then told Samuel to tell them what it will be like;
    Yet they exhibited stubbornness and did not listen to Samuel's godly message. (verse 19)19Nevertheless the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel; and they said, Nay; but we will have a king over us;
    Even after clear warning that when they have a king God will deal with him instead of His people directly no matter how desperately they might cry. The king would be responsible for all the social ills and the people would suffer when his policies were ungodly.

    My question is this; Have we reached this point in our history where it seems that our President wields so much power that the office itself is boarders on kingship? Not that Bush or Obama are kings per say but that their control over government is such that the office is extra-constitutional.

    The Constitution being the document that grants our people their voice in a free society has been over ridden by "Executive Privilege" sense FDR. And Congress has advocated many of it's legislative powers to the Executive branch sense long before that, back to Lincoln.

    It took generations for Israel to go from no king but God and it seems that this nation is on the verge of the generation that will elect a man to take care of us from cradle to grave kingship.

    And when this "Beast" comes to power God will deal with him and his kings along with the rest of the world that put him in power.

    Just my thoughts and I hope that it gives you something to think about as well. :type:
    #1 Palatka51, Nov 17, 2008
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