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The meaning of Church ??

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by dan p, Jul 13, 2010.

  1. dan p

    dan p New Member

    Jun 30, 2010
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    Hi to all , and I know that maybe their is one who agrees with my next premise .

    What does the Greek word EKKLESIA , really mean ??

    EK = means from out of .

    KLESIS = kaleo , means a calling ot to call .

    So , these 2 compound Greek words means ASSEMBLY or CONGREGATION and not Church .

    In Acts 7:38 , Israel was truely a " called out assembly " as they left Egypt .

    Church , is not a true translation of EKKLESIA .
  2. billwald

    billwald New Member

    Jun 28, 2000
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    For interest only <G>


    Church Defined - IRS Church Definition
    Because of First Amendment religious freedom concerns, Congress has never passed any statute anywhere which defines what a church is (beyond saying "a church or convention or association of churches", which is like saying that the definition of a duck is "one or more ducks"). The IRS, which apparently is unconstrained by the First Amendment, has nonetheless ventured where angels fear to tread, and has established criteria which, in its view, define a church as follows:

    1. A distinct legal existence
    2. A recognized creed and form of worship
    3. A definite and distinct ecclesiastical government
    4. A formal code of doctrine and discipline
    5. A distinct religious history
    6. A membership not associated with any other church or denomination
    7. An organization of ordained ministers
    8. Ordained ministers selected after completing prescribed studies
    9. A literature of its own
    10. Established places of worship
    11. Regular congregations
    12. Regular religious services
    13. Sunday schools for religious instruction of the young
    14. Schools for the preparation of its ministers.

    The Tax Court, which is apparently unconstrained by the IRS administrative criteria, has adopted its own view, consisting of most of the same criteria compacted into 7 or 8 points. See, e.g., Pusch v. Commissioner, 39 T.C.M. 838 (1980) or Chapman v. Commissioner 48 T.C. 358 (1967). In any event, not all of the 14 criteria must be met by every individual church, since only a substantial denomination will meet all of the criteria, and the IRS must allow for the existence of independent churches. Thus, there is substantial "wiggle room."
  3. Tom Butler

    Tom Butler New Member

    Dec 20, 2005
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    When it comes down to it, a church is an assembly, a congregation.
  4. brucebaptist

    brucebaptist New Member

    Jun 2, 2008
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    a church is not the church because Caesar says it is.... the filthy govt has done their share of damage to the body that belongs to Christ alone...

    the Church is the body of Christ. a building made with hands is not a church, its a building.

    people need to make sure they are part of the Body of Christ and are true Disciples of Christ and forget denominations, churchianity, tax deductions and the like... most so called Christians are merely pew warmers and get all caught up in the social gospel, networking and the buffet at Ryans after their cotton candy church service...