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  1. 1689Dave

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    MILLENNIUM: MILLENNIUM - JewishEncyclopedia.com

    By: Joseph Jacobs, A. Biram

    Messianic Period an Interregnum.

    The reign of peace, lasting one thousand years, which will precede the Last Judgment and the future life. The concept has assumed especial importance in the Christian Church, where it is termed also “chiliasm,” designating the dominion of Jesus with the glorified and risen saints over the world for a thousand years. Chiliasm or the idea of the millennium is, nevertheless, older than the Christian Church; for the belief in a period of one thousand years at the end of time as a preliminary to the resurrection of the dead was held in Parseeism. This concept is expressed in Jewish literature in Enoch, xiii., xci. 12-17; in the apocalypse of the ten weeks, in Apoc. Baruch, xl. 3 (“And his dominion shall last forever, until the world doomed to destruction shall perish”); and in II Esdras vii. 28-29. Neither here nor in later Jewish literature is the duration of this Messianic reign fixed. It is clear, however, that the rule of the Messiah was considered as an interregnum, from the fact that in many passages, such as Pes. 68a, Ber. 34b, Sanh. 91b and 99a, Shab. 63a, 113b, and 141b, a distinction is made between and , although it must be noted that some regarded the Messianic rule as the period of the fulfilment of the prophecies, while others saw in it the time of the subjugation of the nations.
     
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    Same view held by the Apostles and many of the ECF!
     
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    I know the Apostles were misguided not realizing the spiritual nature of the Kingdom until later. But in the gospels Jesus repeatedly refuted these same physical kingdom ideas held by the Pharisees.
     
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    Here is an interesting picture I took a few weeks ago. According to one Hasidic sect, all that has to be done is re-building of the Temple and prophecy says he is the one. Some are in the Chabad sect are already calling him "King". This just might be their man. DSCN2884 (2).JPG
     
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    Wow, the dude in the photo? Really?
     
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    The promise of the Davidic throne in the Millennial Kingdom was first given:

    It was affirmed in:

    There is certainly a Spiritual Kingdom (Matt 6:33; 19:16, 23-24; John 3:3-5; Acts 8:12. 14:22; 19:8;20:25; 28:23; Romans 14:17; 1 Corinth 4:20; 6:9-10; 15:50; Galatians 5:21; Ephesians 5:5; Colossians 4:11; 1 Thess 2:12; 2 Thess 1:5)

    But that does not negate a literal future Millennial Kingdom.
     
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    Jesus never acknowledged a millennium, nor did the disciples. It was always a spiritual kingdom that came without observation. One had to be born again to see it. And flesh and blood could not inherit it. It was at hand as he preached it and was a major component of the NT gospel, now completely lacking. This was in contrast to the Pharisee's future physical kingdom people still unwittingly look for.
     
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    Hey, I only can report what I see out there. Those Hasidics are certainly an interesting group of people. I would have conversations with them and would witness to them.
     
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    That doesn't negate a Millennial Kingdom.When Jesus was walking this earth and talking to the pharisees the Spiritual Kingdom was His focus. However He did address it with the disciples:

    The Pharisees did not get it completely wrong as I have shown in my previous post, of which you ignored. They just missed the need to take care of our sin problem first.
     
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    Jesus was speaking about the end of the world when Israel (believers) are fully restored in the resurrection = the restoration of Israel into the new heavens and earth.
     
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    Nope, no he wasn't. Still havent dealt with the scripture I posted.
     
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    The restoration began at Pentecost according to Amos ““In that day I will raise up the fallen booth of David, and wall up its breaches; I will also raise up its ruins And rebuild it as in the days of old;” Amos 9:11 (NASB95). And speaking of the inclusion of the gentiles Peter says; “‘AFTER THESE THINGS I will return, AND I WILL REBUILD THE TABERNACLE OF DAVID WHICH HAS FALLEN, AND I WILL REBUILD ITS RUINS, AND I WILL RESTORE IT, SO THAT THE REST OF MANKIND MAY SEEK THE LORD, AND ALL THE GENTILES WHO ARE CALLED BY MY NAME,’ SAYS THE LORD, WHO MAKES THESE THINGS KNOWN FROM LONG AGO.” Acts 15:16–18 (NASB95)

    But the full restoration happens on the last day in the resurrection of believers, i.e. Israel. “So when they had come together, they were asking Him, saying, “Lord, is it at this time You are restoring the kingdom to Israel?” He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or epochs which the Father has fixed by His own authority;” Acts 1:6–7 (NASB95)

    And Matthew ties this to the end of the world; ““But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.” Matthew 24:36 (NASB95)
     
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    And you continue to ignore the scripture I posted. I will let you be.,
     
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    I just commented on it and quoted it.
     
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    The Messianic Age will be the Kingdom extended over the entire Earth. No weapons,war,diseases,famines,all No other religions being taught and held!
     
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    But children will die 100 years old along with the sinner. And people will ignore Christ's atonement and sacrifice cattle once again..... etc.
     
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    Now I know a lot of brethren will want to brow beat me but this is my belief and it is the same belief with the Primitive Baptist I've associate with over the years... When Christ comes again to take his children home, I and others of our belief are going to Heaven... Isn't that where Christ is now, sitting on the right hand of God his Father?... He said according to scripture he is coming to take us where he is, now either he is or he isn't?... Did he lie?... Or have men wrest the scripture to their own destruction... Men have taken the 1,000 year reign of Christ and misapplied it... Millennium?... Why?... Well as the Indian would say to the white man, you white men stay, play millennial games, this Indian go to Happy Hunting ground!!!... Brother Glen:D
     
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    MILLENNIUM: MILLENNIUM - JewishEncyclopedia.com

    By: Joseph Jacobs, A. Biram

    Messianic Period an Interregnum.

    The reign of peace, lasting one thousand years, which will precede the Last Judgment and the future life. The concept has assumed especial importance in the Christian Church, where it is termed also “chiliasm,” designating the dominion of Jesus with the glorified and risen saints over the world for a thousand years. Chiliasm or the idea of the millennium is, nevertheless, older than the Christian Church; for the belief in a period of one thousand years at the end of time as a preliminary to the resurrection of the dead was held in Parseeism. This concept is expressed in Jewish literature in Enoch, xiii., xci. 12-17; in the apocalypse of the ten weeks, in Apoc. Baruch, xl. 3 (“And his dominion shall last forever, until the world doomed to destruction shall perish”); and in II Esdras vii. 28-29. Neither here nor in later Jewish literature is the duration of this Messianic reign fixed. It is clear, however, that the rule of the Messiah was considered as an interregnum, from the fact that in many passages, such as Pes. 68a, Ber. 34b, Sanh. 91b and 99a, Shab. 63a, 113b, and 141b, a distinction is made between and , although it must be noted that some regarded the Messianic rule as the period of the fulfilment of the prophecies, while others saw in it the time of the subjugation of the nations.

    What prevails is what JESUS said in Revelation 20:v.1-6, the Millennium of Christ will be established but first must be bound Satan into the bottomless pit. Satan is bound for 1,000 years and the faithful reign with Christ

    Revelation 29:v.1-6

    And I saw an angel (actually an archangel) come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

    2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

    3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

    4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

    5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

    6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

    This message will fulfil LITERALLY from now on, in this beginning of the seventh and last millennium or seventh and last Day, the Lord's Day.

    JESUS warned: Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth? Luke 18:v.8
     
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    The 1000 years are not the kingdom. Satan attacks the kingdom when the 1000 years end.
     
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    Correction - Was written Revelation 29:v.1-6 erroneously.
    The correct is: Revelation 20:v.1-6
     
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