The NIV: Gods Word?

KJVBT:I did look at as much material as possible, and I spent somewhere around 14-15 hours on the paper not counting the time I spent trying to read through the books on it as completely as I could.

Sir, I have spent THOUSANDS of hours reading almost EVERY piece of KJVOism and anti-KJVOism literature out there...from cover to cover. That's why I can safely say that KJVOism is a false doctrine and that many current KJVO authors are getting rich by publishing the same ole junk with a different title and a new pretty cover.

Not only have I read the actual books(One of the most BORING book I've EVER read is "revision Revised" by Dean John Burgon), but I've followed up on their claims...and while I've found some anti-Onlyism claims to be false or meaningless, I've found that NOT ONE KJVO claim has the least amount of validity, while SOME are outright STUPID!("The NIV denies the Deity of Christ in Luke 2:43 by calling Joseph Jesus'father"...while the KJV does it twice more in the same chapter!)(Riplinger, in Blind guides, speaks of the debate between Calvin and Arminius! I wonder who moderated...Barney, Big bird, Sponge Bob? Arminius was born in 1560 while Calvin died in 1564...that musta been SOME debate!) and others are just plain LIES! I can post a URL showing where your gal Riplinger has told DELIBERATE LIES in her books...facts you can verify for yourself in your local library if you don't trust the Net...as well as other flat-out LIES(not accidents or mistakes) found in the works of other KJVO authors.(I HAVE found mistakes in anti-KJVOism literature, but no DELIBERATE LIES.)

And I've been researching this stuff for over 22 years now...so I KNOW what I'm talking about, while YOU'RE just getting your feet wet. And there are others here who've been at it longer than I have. So I'm not the only one here who's read every word in every work you've cited...plus a whole lot more.

Let me commend you for being so conscientious about God and His word...and you seem highly intelligent for your age. But believe me...The MOST IMPORTANT literature you'll EVER read is THE BIBLE. Therefore, I'm being VERY serious when I tell you that the doctrine that the KJV is the ONLY valid English translation if God's word, is totally man-made, false, and a myth. God is NOT LIMITED to just one version, and neither are His people who read English.

The main hurdle for the KJVOs to try to cross is the TOTAL LACK OF SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT for their myth, either direct or implied. If YOU wish to continue to use only the KJV, fine, but before you tell another person the KJV is the ONLY valid English Bible, please look for any SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT for such an idea. That & that alone should convince you the KJVO doctrine and the books written in favor of it are all just one big farce.

 

Sorry KJVBT,

Research which uses texts only from one side of an issue is not research. A few pro-NIV websites(?) does not constitute true research.

You also might want to hone your English and spelling skills if you desire for your work to be seen as reputable.

If I were grading your paper I would give you credit for a lot of hard work, but you paper would merit a C- at best for the reasons stated.

 

Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

Dear brother,

The warning in this passage is speaking of the prophesies found in the Book of Revelation. And it is known for an absolute fact, as you are probably aware, that there are, in the KJV, words that have been added to the text of Revelation that do not appear in any of the Greek manuscripts from which it was translated. Please provide for us a list of the “modern versions” that have added these words to the text of their translation.

 

KJVBT:The King James version IS the only Final Authority,

PROOF, please? SCRIPTURE. please?


I think thats all I need to say on this.

Actually, that's all ANY KJVO can say, as they have no evidence to support their statements.


If you would like to define what Jesus meant when he warned that you are not to add or subtract from His Word then be my guest.
In Christ,
KJVBibleThumper


By YOUR perceived take, better dump that KJV! Where in the Greek are the words "the image of" found in Romans 11:4? They're not needed for clarification. And what about the many times the Greek 'me ginomai' is rendered "God forbid"? That's not at all the meaning of the Greek. And how about the times the OT says, "God save the king", a BRITISH expression rendered from the Hebrew 'chayah melek'? And how about "Easter" in Acts 12:4? Clearly the KJV has ADDED quite a few words.

So if you believe the KJV, you must now drop the KJVO myth or you're operating under a DOUBLE STANDARD.

 

I'm still waiting on scriptural justification from you for Egypt and Scripture..

So by what authority are we to accept the Jesuit/Egyptian "bibles?" That is to say,why should we take your word on the subject??


Why not leave the newbies alone and tackle my question?

 

This has been given you before.
Sorry, i didn't take notes.

I did note though, the Egypt source of
scripture preference is more scriptural
than the un-Baptist Constantoplian
(I can't use the "B" word cause I
can't spell it Byzanteen?) sources.

Or perchance i could make a modern parable
and note that the majority source perferred
folk now would acredit spirituality to
the guy with the most Zerox copies

That is alright, i guess, for
sure i've seen highly structured organizations
were the guy with the best slides had
his ideas used by management.

As for the subject of the thread:
the NIV is the sacred Written Word of God
preserved pure and whole for the 20th
Century (19001-2000) English User
by the very Hand of God.

Praise Iesus

 

roby:The main hurdle for the KJVOs to try to cross is the TOTAL LACK OF SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT for their myth, either direct or implied. If YOU wish to continue to use only the KJV, fine, but before you tell another person the KJV is the ONLY valid English Bible, please look for any SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT for such an idea. That & that alone should convince you the KJVO doctrine and the books written in favor of it are all just one big farce.


Anti_Alexandrian:I'm still waiting on scriptural justification from you for Egypt and Scripture..

Isaiah 19.

So by what authority are we to accept the Jesuit/Egyptian "bibles?" That is to say,why should we take your word on the subject??

Complete avoidance of the question FIRST asked..."Where is the scriptural support for the KJVO myth?" Therefore, I'll answer YOUR question WITH a question:" Where does Scripture say NOT to use MVs?"


Why not leave the newbies alone and tackle my question?

Because you haven't made the slightest attempt to correctly answer MINE. Yeah, I know, ya posted a few verses in the past, but each of them can be applied to any valid BV. You're still on Square One, with a man-made doctrine totally lacking any justification.

 

Isaiah 19??!!

Where does it say anything about the word of God coming from Egypt??

Acts 11 thru 13 supports the word of God coming from Byzantium!!!

The Bible(KJB) is completley SILENT concerning Egypt and Scripture!!!!...Yet another boner on your part!

Kinda like your advoidance of my question in the thread I started???? You answered my question with a question;but to answer your silly question(that for some reason you keep repeating ad nauseam hoping to make some newbie fall into your unscriptural position ),it is Acts 11 thru 13...The KJB has it's roots in the Byzantine MSS.No support for Egypt & Scripture to be found!!!!!!

 

This thread is back to the samo samo arguements.

I don't want to close it without the author putting in his closing (polite) words.

We are on page 5 so I am giving advance notice that I will be closing this thread around midnight tonight CDT unless a co-modertor gets to it first.

 

Anti-A,

Why don't you stop ignoring my questions from many weeks ago?

Go and defend your myth here:

http://www.baptistboard.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/4/1830.html?

By the way don't answer a question with a question. You have NO SCRIPTURE to prove your liberal modernism known as KJVOism. Go and post the scripture and answer my questions.

What? You can't answer! Figures.....

 

A_A, you're really trying to squirm outta this! It doesn't matter if Scripture came from Gilligan's Island! Remember, Antioch was a seat of worship of the false god Attis(Adonis), the lover of Asherah(Ishtar).

Scripture came from wherever God's penmen happened to be when He chose to give them some scripture. a WHOLE LARGE BOOK of Scripture, recognized by JESUS(Matthew 24:15, Mark 13:14), tha Book of Daniel, came from BABYLON, which God held to be the most evil place on earth.

Now, let's cut to the chase...WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT FOR THE KJVO MYTH?

 

[sarcasm]Sorry, Bro Robycop3 --
this is a no cutting to the chase zone[/sarcasm]

Praise Iesus!

 

Same here C4K.

AVL1984

 

The King James version IS the only Final Authority, I think thats all I need to say on this. If you would like to define what Jesus meant when he warned that you are not to add or subtract from His Word then be my guest.
In Christ,
KJVBibleThumper </font>[/QUOTE]The verses you are quoting from the book of Revelation, KJVBT are for that book and that book alone. The Bible as a whole had not been written. If you read, it says, "the book of THIS prophecy". Clarity, friend, clarity.

The King James is not the final authority by any means. God is.

AVL1984

 

I'm still waiting on scriptural justification from you for Egypt and Scripture..

So by what authority are we to accept the Jesuit/Egyptian "bibles?" That is to say,why should we take your word on the subject??


Why not leave the newbies alone and tackle my question? </font>[/QUOTE]Why don't you answer the questions asked of you. You refuse and cannot give authoritative answers on what you post, yet expect others to answer your claims? It is to laugh!

AVL1984