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The NIV: part two

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by KJVBibleThumper, Sep 7, 2004.

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  1. KJVBibleThumper

    KJVBibleThumper New Member

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    First of all im not sure if you read the last reference that I posted as it was a 12 page email sent to me and unless you were on the guys mailing list I dont see how you could have read it.
    As for the topic on Gipp I cant find it and I have spent time looking for it. Can you post a link to it please?
     
    #21 KJVBibleThumper, Sep 8, 2004
  2. AVL1984

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    For many KJVO's there will always be a "but", Dr. Bob. I know when I was one and hadn't studied out the subject, I always used the excuse. I'm glad I studied the subject. I had to apologize to a pastor who had given me the NIV in 1984. I left his church, and when he came to visit, I asked him to leave my home and nearly threw that NIV away. I'm glad the Lord didn't allow me to do that.

    AVL1984
     
    #22 AVL1984, Sep 8, 2004
  3. rsr

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    #23 rsr, Sep 8, 2004
  4. KJVBibleThumper

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    Thank you rsr. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
    #24 KJVBibleThumper, Sep 8, 2004
  5. KJVBibleThumper

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    I am leaving this thread(for now) in order to focuse fully on my upcoming discusion with David J.
    I appologise for any posts of yours that I did not answer and if you PM me I will answer them as soon as possible.(although I will not debate, I will just send my answer and thats all.)
    In Christ,
    KJVBibleThumper
     
    #25 KJVBibleThumper, Sep 8, 2004
  6. AVL1984

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    Nice dodge, KJVBT.

    AVL1984
     
    #26 AVL1984, Sep 8, 2004
  7. KJVBibleThumper

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    Just exactly how is it a dodge to say that I am leaving this thread in order to focuse on my upcoming debate with David J? I said if you had asked me a question that I hadnt answered to PM me and I would send you an answer as soon as possible.
    That is in no way a dodge and you know it full well, you just wanted to post a "cutting" reply and show how "brilliant" you are from the looks of things.
    If you have something that you asked me that I didnt answer then PM me. Its as simple as that.
    In Christ,
    KJVBibleThumper
     
    #27 KJVBibleThumper, Sep 9, 2004
  8. AVL1984

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    No, it just seems like you have a cut and run strategy. I've seen plenty of posters here and on other forums that use the same tactics. It would seem to me that you should be able to debate David J and still debate on the other threads as well, yet you choose to do so through PM and only with your "answer"...not subject to debate, as per your own words. This is a childish, loser tactic. I just call 'em as I seem 'em, kiddo.

    AVL1984
     
    #28 AVL1984, Sep 9, 2004
  9. Glory Bound

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    That's true - I'd like to hear the KJVO response to some of the issues raised in this thread - only using PM is preventing those of us who are quietly following this conversation from reading the arguments.
     
    #29 Glory Bound, Sep 9, 2004
  10. AVL1984

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    Thus the reason for my post of KJVBT having nicely dodged the discussion.

    AVL1984
     
    #30 AVL1984, Sep 9, 2004
  11. robycop3

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    KJVBT, ya might save yourself a lotta trouble and simply try to find some SCRIPTURE that supports the KJVO doctrine...and when you realize there isn't any, to just discard the KJVO doctrine as false and a myth.

    And, BTW, when you get done with David J, feel free to challenge me. I promise to keep it civil, and to give you time to check out the facts in other sources as you find necessary if you don't believe what I may post.
     
    #31 robycop3, Sep 9, 2004
  12. KJVBibleThumper

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    Agreed. And by the way find some bible verses to support your position while you are at it robycop3. [​IMG]
     
    #32 KJVBibleThumper, Sep 9, 2004
  13. robycop3

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    KJVBT:Agreed. And by the way find some bible verses to support your position while you are at it robycop3.

    I don't need to. I'm not trying to prove a doctrine...YOU are. I'm simply rejecting a man-made doctrine due to lack of supporting evidence. Since the KJVOs invented their doctrine, THEY have the burden of PROVING it.
     
    #33 robycop3, Sep 10, 2004
  14. Dr. Bob

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    roby - good point. The onlies will always try to turn the table, but it is THEIR false doctrine which must be defended. With Ruckman as their apologist, they are in sincere trouble!

    BTW, if you need scriptural support, just make up some greek phrases on your own. That's what 'Rasmus did when he couldn't find Revelation and the AV translators fell for it. [​IMG]
     
    #34 Dr. Bob, Sep 10, 2004
  15. Johnv

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    I'm not asking for much. Just scriptural support for single-translation-onlyism. I ask, and ask, and ask, and it seems the KJVO crowd doesn't want to reply.
     
    #35 Johnv, Sep 10, 2004
  16. robycop3

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    Let's see...this makes five of us just this week who've asked this simple and very legitimate question.

    Since Scripture is our highest written authority, ANY doctrine not found directly in Scripture, but is ABOUT Scripture, MUST BE SUPPORTED by scripture. As a cop, I knew that any law passed by any level of govt. HAs to be within the confines of the Constitution. We know the Supreme Court of the USA often rules some law UNconstitutional because it's NOT SUPPORTED by the Constitution. Well, Scripture is higher than the Constitution, and is the writ used by the Supreme JUDGE OF THE UNIVERSE. Does the KJVO or other One-Versionist ever ask him/herself if their doctrine is Scripture-tutional? Could they be preventing some others from coming to Christ by telling them their BVs are bogus? Could they have been badly fooled by a doctrine PROVEN to be totally man-made?

    In other words, KJVOs, have you ever considered the possibility that you could be COMPLETELY WRONG?(About BVs, not your faith in Jesus)
     
    #36 robycop3, Sep 10, 2004
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    That's because they don't have a leg to stand on concerning their beliefs. The silence is deafening! :eek:

    AVL1984
     
    #37 AVL1984, Sep 10, 2004
  18. KJVBibleThumper

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    All right it seems that I must again re-enter this discussion because of people that decide to slander me when I already said that I wasnt coming back and,apparently thought that gave them free rein to make all sorts of accusations.
    There is a problem with you people asking for a biblical reason for my position, namely that I get all my answers from the KJV and I am sure that if I posted something from the KJV that specificly said that it was the Word of God that you would find some cute reason as to why it "shouldnt be there". Perhaps Erasmus didnt really put it in there but was 'forced" to?
    Lets look at what the King James says in Psalms 12:6-7 "The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever". See? It clearly says that God will preserve His Word FOREVER! This obviously poses a threat to the new versions as why would God inspire a multitude of bibles? So lets look at what the NIV says "And the words of the Lord are flawless, like silver refined in a furnace of clay, purified seven times. O Lord you will keep US safe. and protect us from such people forever"(capitals mine) See? As this verse posed a threat to them they removed it cleanly. So how can I post a biblical reason for my beliefs when our my Bible reads differently then YOUR bible? You do not have a leg to stand on for your beliefs other then what you create yourself!
     
    #38 KJVBibleThumper, Sep 12, 2004
  19. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    How does your proof text from Psalm 12 say ANYTHING about one English translation?
     
    #39 NaasPreacher (C4K), Sep 12, 2004
  20. Trotter

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    Haven't we been down this road before, Roger? Many, many times...at least it seems that way to me...

    In Christ,
    Trotter
     
    #40 Trotter, Sep 12, 2004
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