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The other gap

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by billwald, Aug 21, 2004.

  1. billwald

    billwald New Member

    Jun 28, 2000
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    The other gap is that God has not given us the list of the regenerate people or a test for election. Could be that God has only "elected" Arminians
  2. BobRyan

    BobRyan Active Member

    Aug 27, 2002
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    Non Baptist Christian
    In which case He also directs "His saints" to continually expose the flaws in Calvinism.

    But of course all that could only be true - IF Calvinism was correct.

    Fortunately for Arminians and Calvinists - it is wrong.

    In Christ,

  3. Me2

    Me2 New Member

    Apr 16, 2002
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    Christians are specifically told to try the spirits to see if they are of God. what is the relative rule?

    1Jo 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
    1Jo 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

    the elect have the resurrected spirit of Christ inside them.

    how about a double witness. the holy spirit gives the evidence of the indwelling spirit.

    1Co 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and [that] no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

    the only thing that could possibly be lacking at this stage is the understanding of Gods full and complete Goal. in which we have the last identifying mark of the true elect...

    1Jo 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
    1Jo 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

    Is it possible to deceive the true elect?

    Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

    If it were possible...but its not.. False christ do not profess Christ as Lord nor do they administer mercy to their fellow brothers in Love.

    false christs deceive other false christs..
    but they do not deceive the elect.

    "arminians" are not of the elect. first they do not profess to the actual resurrected spirit within them as lord of their will nor do they administer mercy to all as the true Christ has chosen to fulfill before his father. they believe that their God will as they themselves display..withold mercy from some condeming them to eternal pains of torment for such a simple act as ignorance.

    whos fooling who? [​IMG]