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The pagan roots of Easter

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Hobie, Mar 21, 2020.

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  1. Adonia

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    You have to say that kind of stuff to justify yourselves.

    But really you are smart and know what I meant. Baptist's believe in local control, in having autonomy, not believing in a central authority. You guys read the scriptures and then come up with your own conclusions which can vary from church to church. If some people in a particular congregation disagree where the Pastor is going they just leave and start up a new church. (I know you know that is true)

    What were the letters to the Corinthians, the Galatians, or the Ephesians if not but St. Paul (from the central Christian authority) exercising his authority over the local churches? Yep, that's what he was doing!
     
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    Nope, I say that because the original council is in Jerusalem. At the first conversion, people were cut to the heart by God (Hebrews 4 confirms what God's word does) and then, after salvation, the Apostles baptized. In every instance of baptism in Acts we see the person first being redeemed and the baptized. Never once do we see an unredeemed person being baptized.
    Unfortunately, your church baptizes the unredeemed and claims that the baptism redeems them. It's a false doctrine that leads to hell, yet your church teaches it. No wonder God turned His back on your church.
     
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    The marks of that cult are shining forth more & more in his posts, especially those about Sabbath-keeping. Wouldn't be shocked if he tries to tell us Jesus is the archangel Michael.
     
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    So Paul, who had a "hotline" to Jesus, wrote falsely ?
     
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    Adventist as that was the first threads I started, but does God save you depending on your denomination, no and neither can a church send you to hell or excommunicate or forgive your sins.
     
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    Jesus Christ is that authority ... not Peter.
    (Paul certainly didn't answer to Peter as a subordinate).

    Rather James was Bishop (Elder, Shepherd) over the congregation in Jerusalem, while Timothy was Bishop (Elder, Shepherd) over another congregation and Paul appointed Bishops (Elders, Shepherds) over each new congregation that Christ started through him.

    ... just like we Baptists still do it. [We didn't invent the concept in the 1600's, we just read the widely available scripture and followed the Apostolic example.]
     
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    John 20
    23“If you forgive the sins of any, their sins have been forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they have been retained.”

    The true church can forgive sins.
     
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    I think you know that is not true....you cannot take what is of God, to forgive sins, we all know what sin that is.
     
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    Instead I believe what Jesus Christ says.>>>>

    John 20
    23“If you forgive the sins of any, their sins have been forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they have been retained.”

    Jesus has spoken.
     
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    Jesus gave them that power, as the Scripture says. But evidently that's another passage of Scripture Ad-Libbers don't believe.
     
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    No, but the DOCTRINES one follows certainly can !
     
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    Beware of doctrinal mind games. Especially of the SDA variety!
     
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    No, Christians are not Pantheistic. The Trinity is the dogma upon which the entire Christian faith is based. If you do not know that Christians believe that God is One in Three Persons (hypostases), then you are probably wasting your time here.
     
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    From Wiki - then would you say that groups who claim to be Christians but to not believe in the Trinity actually are not Christians?
     
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    I would say no, they are not, as the Incarnation and Trinity imply one another.
     
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