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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by AustinC, Oct 30, 2021.

  1. AustinC

    AustinC Well-Known Member

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    Notice God's purpose for angels in the particular redemption of humans.

    Hebrews 1:14

    New International Version
    Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?

    New Living Translation
    Therefore, angels are only servants—spirits sent to care for people who will inherit salvation.

    English Standard Version
    Are they not all ministering spirits sent out to serve for the sake of those who are to inherit salvation?

    Berean Study Bible
    Are not the angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?

    Berean Literal Bible
    Are they not all ministering spirits, being sent forth for service for the sake of those being about to inherit salvation?

    King James Bible
    Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

    New King James Version
    Are they not all ministering spirits sent forth to minister for those who will inherit salvation?

    New American Standard Bible
    Are they not all ministering spirits, sent out to provide service for the sake of those who will inherit salvation?
     
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    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    To which I reply:

    " for God VERY MUCH LOVES the entire human race, that He sent Jesus Christ to die for their sins on the cross. That whoever from this human race, were to repent of their sins, and believe in the Gospel about Jesus Christ, they will not be lost, but enjoy eternal live with the Lord"

    Argue all you will, but you cannot disprove what the Holy Bible Teaches, from mans theology!
     
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    Of course you embellish the text with your own interpretation of the verse and will refuse to acknowledge what it actually says.

    Now back to the fact that angels are sent to serve those who are to inherit salvation.

    Hebrews 1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits sent out to serve for the sake of those who are to inherit salvation?

    God knows who will be saved. In fact the Father gives those who will be saved to Jesus (John 10) and Jesus prayed for all of us whom the Father would give him in the future (John 17). Now we see here that God sets angels to serve everyone of us whom he knows will inherit salvation.

    One cannot escape the elective choice of God.
     
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    That was from the SBGV. It’s not very accurate. O O
     
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    100% what the Bible Teaches, not the reformed nonsense!
     
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    sure, this is about angels as ministers to those after they are saved, so what? HOW does this in any way show that Jesus did not die for the entire human race? and you speak of me "embellising"??? :Laugh
     
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    Did you intend to use John 6 as the reference there, my friend?
     
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    According to the Scriptures, SBG, what does a person's salvation depend on?

    The basis of it is either upon what we do for Him, or what He did for us... of which the Gospel is the message of.
    It's that sharp of a point, my friend, and makes all the difference between works and grace ( Romans 11:5-6 ).
     
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    God, but not without them first repenting and believing as the Bible teaches, but people like you cannot accept!
     
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    SBG, I was taught this growing up in IFB churches.
    I've learned a lot since then.

    My question to you is, "is there some reason that you are unable to see that God's grace cannot possibly be merited?"
     
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    I have ober 6,000 messages on BB, show me ONE where I ever say that a sinner can MERIT God's saving grace? This is nonsense!
     
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    Every time I've pointed this out, it seems you are unable to see it.
    I'll put it very plainly...

    If a person's salvation depends upon one iota of something that they can contribute towards it, then it is not grace.
     
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    HOW is the sinners OBEYING from the heart, what God has said must be done by them, so that they can be saved, as in REPENT and BELIEVE, can be something they "contributed"? they are simply OBEYING the Commands of the Lord! It is very simple
     
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    Putting those things first, before God can save a person, is contributing them, is it not?
     
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    I don't see this. as I have said, God has conditions, which some do not believe in, even though the Bible Teaches this, as in REPENT and BELIEVE, before a sinner can be saved. These conditions must be met by the sinner. there is no WORK or MERIT in this.
     
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    He does?

    I am under the impression that they are necessary evidences that someone who is born again will exhibit, naturally...
    Because they are born again and made new creatures in Christ by the Lord.

    Do you mean to tell me that I can trade these things to God in order to meet His requirements...
    and then gain access to His mercy and kindness through His Son?
    How is there no work or merit involved, if God relies on a person doing these things in order to grant them salvation?
    Have you thought this through, my friend?
     
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    Do you realize that by putting question marks around your statement you are calling it the very words of scripture?

    The fact you added to scripture and then called your added words scripture is a violation of God’s warning in scripture not to add to it.

    You should repent and believe God’s Word and not add to it.

    peace to you
     
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    firstly, I have not used question marks, which are ?. I have used quotation marks, which are ". Secondly, this is what is known as a paraphrase, as in the Living Bible, etc. :D
     
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    ???

    What would be your guess of the % of humans ever created and or born of women, will be saved?
    50 %
    Less than 50 %
    Over 50 %
     
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    Auto correct got me again.

    Are you quoting the Living Bible with that quote? Or, are you making up your own interpretation?

    Regardless, it’s not scripture and shouldn’t be presented as such. I’ll leave you to it.

    peace to you
     
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