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The People Behind Ukraine's Determination

Benjamin

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I respect that the Ukrainian people are fighting with a lot of heart for their freedom from Russia. Their government aside, to me it is about the people - and the value of freedom. There is no question whose side I am on - the side of people fighting for their freedom.


These courageous people have withstood Russia's aggression against the opinions of many that they wouldn't stand a chance and recently gained back a significant amount of ground. I have heard that they will have air superiority before long. I do not see these people ever giving up their hope.
 

Conan

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We are the aggressors. The US is fighting a proxy war against Russia. Ukraine has no hope to drive the Russians out. But we hope to bleed Russia so much they won't be able to oppose us elsewhere. We, the US are playing with fire, and ought to be condemned for our wickedness. We, unfortunately have ordered the Ukrainians to not negotiate with Russia, so we can bleed them.

By the way, you know your side is lying when Russia has total air superiority and someone is saying otherwise.
 

Benjamin

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We are the aggressors.
Hmm, could have sworn that it was Russia who invaded Ukraine.
The US is fighting a proxy war against Russia.
Call funding and support for a country fighting for their freedom whatever you want, doesn't affect the justification.
Ukraine has no hope to drive the Russians out.
We just saw Russia in a major retreat from from an Ukraine offensive in the northeast.
But we hope to bleed Russia so much they won't be able to oppose us elsewhere. We, the US are playing with fire, and ought to be condemned for our wickedness.
Okay, Russia should know that we might bloody their nose anytime they invade a country that stands on freedom, regardless of the threat of Russia's fire, and we ought to be diligent about condemning their wickedness.
We, unfortunately have ordered the Ukrainians to not negotiate with Russia, so we can bleed them.
Both your premise and conclusion lack any believability concerning truth.
By the way, you know your side is lying when Russia has total air superiority and someone is saying otherwise.
It is my understanding that Russia is currently losing their air superiority - they are being taken down by US anti-aircraft missiles and cannot support their troops.
 

Silverhair

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We are the aggressors. The US is fighting a proxy war against Russia. Ukraine has no hope to drive the Russians out. But we hope to bleed Russia so much they won't be able to oppose us elsewhere. We, the US are playing with fire, and ought to be condemned for our wickedness. We, unfortunately have ordered the Ukrainians to not negotiate with Russia, so we can bleed them.

By the way, you know your side is lying when Russia has total air superiority and someone is saying otherwise.

I will admit that you are consistent. You never tire of saying how the US is bad and russian is great. Remind us again what country is the fighting taking place in.
 

Benjamin

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I just hope that in his pride Putin doesn't react foolishly when his invasion turns to mush.
 

Conan

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Blame it all on Putin. The US does no wrong in your eyes. The US government, our Billionaires , pentagon, war industry do not sin. We have never murdered others or made war on others, or hurt civilians from other countries. Putin on the other hand..........
 

Silverhair

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Blame it all on Putin. The US does no wrong in your eyes. The US government, our Billionaires , pentagon, war industry do not sin. We have never murdered others or made war on others, or hurt civilians from other countries. Putin on the other hand..........

Do you not realize how foolish your arguments sound. Were bad so it is ok for putin to be bad. Putin invaded another country do you not understand that that is wrong?
 
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