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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by JonC, Nov 12, 2020.

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  1. JonC

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    He may have been tempted to post on forums all day if He were forced to work remotely from home. :Biggrin
    But I'm sure He would have overcome that temptation. :(
     
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    Theology actually starts with God the Father, as he is the One that sent Jesus to be the Messiah and Savior!
     
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    Thanks Jon C. I’ll have to study this a little.
     
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    I still see Calvinism in refards to salvation proper as being derived from the scriptures themselves, and not gotten from plato or law book!
     
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    Christian theology starts with Christ. That is what Jesus said. You cannot know the Father except by the Son.

    Theology that starts with the Father is religious philosophy.
     
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    That is not what I asked.
     
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    Rumour spreadin' 'round
    In that Texas town :D

    You are welcome. We all need to study this a little (emphasis on a little). The main thing is not theology but spiritual truth. Share Christ with someone.
     
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    Theology proper starts with the trinity, as all 3 are God, and one not exclusive over others!
    Jesus Himself diverted them to the Father, while the Spirit diverts us to Jesus!
     
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    So are you saying knowing of God to be three Persons goes before salvation and knowing God Himself?
     
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    I am speaking to what we should focus on after being saved, what the text books start out with!
     
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    Is God not one, John? Are you espousing three separate deities? (No, I don't think you are. But, you are being legalistic in this issue.)
     
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    No. I am referencing Scripture. No man can know the Father except through the Son (John 14).

    It is not a popular view anymore, but at one time it was the foundation of Christian theology.

    Times change.
     
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    Christian theology begins and ends with Christ. Read the Bible.
     
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    Almost on hour 9 of our 3 hour warning.
     
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    Taking a nap lol


    Joy unspeakable full of glory
     
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    " When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
    12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
    13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these [is] charity." ( 1 Corinthians 13:11-13 ).


    Jon, I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that Christians cannot understand the Bible completely at some point in our lives, but I don't see it here.
    I see that we see Christ through a glass, darkly...

    But then when we see Him face to face, we shall see Him clearly, and as He is.
    for now we see Him through Scripture and experience His presence through the Spirit..
    Later?

    In Person.:)
    I agree.
    But it does tells me all that god has decided that what we need to know.
    I'm sorry, but you've lost me.

    To me, God's word is addressed to me and others like me...
    His children.

    It's what He wants me to know about Him and about how and why He graciously bothered with saving my worthless hide from eternal punishment.
     
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    I think you misunderstood me, brother.

    I never said we cannot understand the Bible.

    I am saying we cannot understand the mind of God beyond what He has revealed to us.
     
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    Well, he did say no sooner.
     
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    And the OP was never addressed :Laugh:Laugh
     
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    Well I thought as a moderator, you could close it?:Unsure... OK Jon, wake up Salty!... Brother Glen:D
     
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