The Religious Freedom to NOT Serve Someone

[InTheLight]

Christian bakers not wanting to bake cakes for gay weddings. Christian owners of pizza parlors not wanting to cater a gay wedding. Or Christian photographers, or florists, etc.

Here in Minneapolis a few years back Muslim taxi drivers were refusing to pick up people that had alcoholic beverages or dogs in their possession. There were also Muslim grocery cashiers that would not handle pork. I suppose that Christians roundly criticized such actions. Eventually, the cities that granted the taxi cab licenses compelled the Muslims to pick up all people in the taxi stand line regardless of their possessions.

So what's the difference between a Muslim taxi driver not wanting to give a ride to a person carrying a bottle of wine and a Christian baker not wanting to bake a cake?

 

[Zaac]

Christian bakers not wanting to bake cakes for gay weddings. Christian owners of pizza parlors not wanting to cater a gay wedding. Or Christian photographers, or florists, etc.

Here in Minneapolis a few years back Muslim taxi drivers were refusing to pick up people that had alcoholic beverages or dogs in their possession. There were also Muslim grocery cashiers that would not handle pork. I suppose that Christians roundly criticized such actions. Eventually, the cities that granted the taxi cab licenses compelled the Muslims to pick up all people in the taxi stand line regardless of their possessions.

So what's the difference between a Muslim taxi driver not wanting to give a ride to a person carrying a bottle of wine and a Christian baker not wanting to bake a cake?

None. It's all discrimination. Muslim taxi drivers also take people to bars so that they can get drunk and then they pick up the same drunk people.

If in the act of handling money in your business o dealing with goods in your business that is involved with interstate commerce, you can't discriminate against people in protected groups.

From a business perspective, it's just silly to have a policy set in stone saying "I won't serve XYZ".

It's crazy how barely 50 years ago the Civil Rights Act was passed and we're quickly seeing modern day politicians doing everything they can to legislatively turn back the clock.

If you can legislate discrimination against one group of people who you don't like, whose to say you can't legislate to discriminate against another? It's just a very bad practice, IMO, to begin.

 

[matt wade]

Christian bakers not wanting to bake cakes for gay weddings. Christian owners of pizza parlors not wanting to cater a gay wedding. Or Christian photographers, or florists, etc.

Here in Minneapolis a few years back Muslim taxi drivers were refusing to pick up people that had alcoholic beverages or dogs in their possession. There were also Muslim grocery cashiers that would not handle pork. I suppose that Christians roundly criticized such actions. Eventually, the cities that granted the taxi cab licenses compelled the Muslims to pick up all people in the taxi stand line regardless of their possessions.

First off, "you suppose" that happened. Let's not suppose things please.

Should a Muslim taxi cab driver be able to pick and choose who they do business with? Absolutely! If they are an independent, they should be able to refuse service to anyone for any reason. If they operate for a company, they should abide by the company's rules or work somewhere else.

So what's the difference between a Muslim taxi driver not wanting to give a ride to a person carrying a bottle of wine and a Christian baker not wanting to bake a cake?

No difference. Both should be allowed to choose who they do business with.

 

[Jedi Knight]

So what's the difference between a Muslim taxi driver not wanting to give a ride to a person carrying a bottle of wine and a Christian baker not wanting to bake a cake?

One owns his business and the other doesn't. Next!

 

[matt wade]

One owns his business and the other doesn't. Next!

Supposing both were owners, are you OK with the Muslim denying service as well?

 

[church mouse guy]

One owns his business and the other doesn't. Next!

Unfortunately, the government licenses taxis in this area so they government compels them to do things.

Let's say bakeries are inspected by the board of health; I am not sure that the board of health compels Christians to do repugnant things such as cater to the nazi rallies or Clinton rallies.

 

[matt wade]

Clinton rallies.

You're like the baby that learns a new word and runs around saying it every chance he gets.

 

[Zaac]

Unfortunately, the government licenses taxis in this area so they government compels them to do things.

Let's say bakeries are inspected by the board of health; I am not sure that the board of health compels Christians to do repugnant things such as cater to the nazi rallies or Clinton rallies.

Get help.:thumbsup:

 

[Jedi Knight]

Let's say bakeries are inspected by the board of health; I am not sure that the board of health compels Christians to do repugnant things such as cater to the nazi rallies or Clinton rallies.

Well if Hillary can scam her way to the top she might have Michelle O on the Health Board to bully Christians.

 

[InTheLight]

First off, "you suppose" that happened. Let's not suppose things please.

Good advice. However in this case I think my assumption is sound. For example, there are few on BB that say they are not bothered by Islamic practices.

Should a Muslim taxi cab driver be able to pick and choose who they do business with? Absolutely! If they are an independent, they should be able to refuse service to anyone for any reason. If they operate for a company, they should abide by the company's rules or work somewhere else.

I agree. Most Christians will support the Indiana law without realizing it cuts both ways - - they could be denied service. Then we would hear about the wrongness of that and how Christians in the U.S are persecuted.

 

[Jedi Knight]

I agree. Most Christians will support the Indiana law without realizing it cuts both ways - - they could be denied service. Then we would hear about the wrongness of that and how Christians in the U.S are persecuted.

Do you feel proud and want to wave the rainbow flag on their behalf?

 

[InTheLight]

Do you feel proud and want to wave the rainbow flag on their behalf?

No. And if I were a baker and a gay couple came to me for a wedding cake I wouldn't make it for them. Sheesh. Pay attention to what people say here, not what you think they say.

Religious freedom laws cut both ways. You want prayer in the public schools? OK, get ready for Muslim prayer too. You want nativity scenes at City Hall? Get ready for atheist dioramas of the Flying Spaghetti Monster alongside your manger scene.

In other words, be careful what you wish for.

 

[Jedi Knight]

No. And if I were a baker and a gay couple came to me for a wedding cake I wouldn't make it for them. Sheesh. Pay attention to what people say here, not what you think they say.

Trying to have your cake and eat it too but glad you would NOT make it for them. You're the last of the liberal Mohicans not on my idiots list.