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The So-called title of MS

Discussion in 'Other Discussions' started by Salty, May 5, 2011.

  1. Salty

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    For about the past 40 years, politically correctness has demanded we use the title "MS" instead of the proper "Mrs" or "Miss"

    I refuse to use such terms.

    Just wanted to get this thread going, will say more later
     
  2. th1bill

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    What a relief! I saw the title and thought you had been stricken with MS. I also refuse to use Ms. Anybody. I'm still very large on respecting my wife, my daughters and the young ladies of this world. The problem is that the number and the perventage of young ladies is rapidly dwendling and the number or Uncouth Women is growing.
     
  3. FriendofSpurgeon

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    From a business perspective, I always use the standard title Ms. rather than Mrs. or Miss when corresponding with women. Their marital status is of no more importance in this matter than is a man's.

    BTW, I too am very big on respecting my wife, my daughter and young (and older) ladies of this world.
     
  4. billwald

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    Agree with Salty but we are old pharts stuck in our ways. I also sing the old words to the bastardized hymns.

    But language does change over time. Olde English is almost unreadable. In 1611 "thee" and "thou" were informal, casual words but many people think they are "spiritual" words.

    I just learned what St Paul actually wrote when describing homosexuals but I can't use those words on BB.

    Whatshisname who made the new translation of Calvin's Institutes said in his study of the historical Latin documents he had to learn many new Latin words for the rear ends of animals.
     
  5. Scarlett O.

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    I'm not really that big into political correctness. To me, trying to maintian an air of being PC is stressful and sometimes makes things divisive.

    There are some words that I will not use. Racial, sexual, and political epithets such as n*gger, f*ggot, sl*t, raghead, k*ke, and words like that. I don't abstain from those words because of political correctness. I refuse to use them because they are cruel and show disdain for others.

    I DO use the title "Ms." in front of my name. And I do believe that we have had this discuss on the BB at least three times that I know of.

    Again, I don't use it to be politically correct. I use it because the other two titles for women do not apply to me. I am not a "Miss" as she is a young unmarried woman who still lives at home with her father. I have not lived with my father in 30 years. I am not a "Mrs." as I am not married. I can't use "Mr." as I am not a man. What's left for me?

    What's left for me is the only term that makes any sense. A title that identifies me as a woman yet does not announce a marital status as I do not feel my singleness is the first and foremost thing that defines or identifies me.

    If people write me a letter or use a title verbally with me and they call me "Miss" or "Mrs.", I do not correct them. If a person refuses to understand my reasoning for using the title that I do, I do not chastise them. Life's too short to get tangled up in that.

    I'm not trying to be politically correct. I've been using that title since I was in my early twenties. In September, I will be 50. I've never used the title as an agenda - only as a means of identifying myself.

    I'm not sure that I understand what makes the titles "Miss" and "Mrs." respectful or proper, as opposed to "Ms." as has been noted so far on this thread. I don't always see that tradition automatically means propriety or sacredness. I definitely DO understand the desire in a good man's heart to BE respectful and proper around women. And that's a good thing.

    But one can use the terms "Miss", "Ms." or "Mrs." and still be crude, inappropriate, or just plain out hateful.

    To me, it isn't the title one uses in referring to a woman that you know or a female total stranger that determines a man's gentility. There are so many more pertinent factors in a man's actions, tone of voice, words, and mannerisms that determine his being a gentlemen or not. And that's what I look for in a good and decent man whether he be a friend, family relation, brother in Christ, co-worker, or companion. He can use whatever title for me that he chooses. I would prefer that he use "Ms.", but would never argue the point with him. Whether or not he defers to my wishes, I know who I am.

    And if he is good, decent, respectful, supportive, and Christ-like, yet he has "issues" with "Ms.", I can overlook his not understanding me because he has so many other fine traits. I use the title for myself - not for anyone else.


    .... and c'est la vie.
     
  6. Jim1999

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    Then, what can a man use to identify his marital status?

    Cheers,

    Jim

    When I was a pastor, I simply tried to get first names and use them.
     
  7. SaggyWoman

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    I thought the same thing.
     
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    I don't use the term Ms. to be politically correct, either. In my single world, I don't often recognize women in the dilineation that they are married or single, (i.e. women are women married or not...so what is the big fat hairy of Miss or Mrs. Besides, why is the recognition of being married or single so important?)

    I am Miss, but don't like to use that because I am old and single, and people often have comments to make about that which aren't so pretty. I don't like the term Mrs. because this chick ain't married. Ms. works fine for me........
     
  9. Arbo

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    Call my Dear Wifey 'Ms', and you're likely to be corrected.

    I'm so proud of her!:smilewinkgrin:
     
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    Then you'll really dislike me. I use Ms. and not only that, I use a different last name from my husband's.

    I do it because I'm a crazy liberal who doesn't feel my identity lies in whether or not I'm married.

    In fact, it cracks me up when he comes to my work and they call him Mr. ____ ...my last name. Haaaaaaaa

    LOVE IT!
     
  11. SaggyWoman

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    Bwahahahaha! :laugh:
     
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    madre prefers being addressed as Her Majesty.
     
  13. Arbo

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    I'm reminded of the British TV series Rumpole of the Bailey. Rumpole refered to his wife as 'She Who Must be Obeyed'.
     
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    ...and she referred to him as "Rumpole!!!"
    (For folk who have bever seen it, it was a comedy series about a dishevelled barrister (Rumpole) based on the books by John Mortimer, who was himself a barrister).
     
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    I have been Mrs for 38 years and proud of it.
     
  16. SaggyWoman

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    Yeah, I prefer Rev. Most Holy or Your Highness myself.
     
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    My oldest daughter addresses her bossy little sister as "Your Hind-end-ness."

    I think it's a title Tinytim's boys must have taught her. . .:laugh:
     
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    I refuse to use it. Even if a spinster, an unmarried woman is still addressed as "Miss".
     
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    A spinster can be a "Miss", too.
     
  20. Tom Butler

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    My fellow Southerners will understand that when we address a woman as "Miz," we are not saying Ms. We actually mean Mrs. But we are sometimes lazy in our speech and Mrs. just has too many syllables.

    There are some Southerners, however, who really want to be grammatically correct, so they try. But it comes out "Mizriz." Truth be known, those folks are also a bit speech-lazy, so they use this short-cut for "Mistress."

    Of course, those who use "Missus" are doing the same thing.
     
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