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The Ten Commandments

Discussion in '2000-02 Archive' started by Abiyah, Dec 11, 2002.

  1. Abiyah

    Abiyah <img src =/abiyah.gif>

    Jul 22, 2002
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    I just read the final posts, including the 12th one
    on the Ten Commandments. thread, as well as
    reading today all the PMs, and I am totally
    overwhelmed. I am having a hard time with the
    wonderful attitudes, the real and personal witness
    you have shown, that our Lord lives and is alive in

    These tears are not for any sorrow for myself;
    they are for being so blessed with people like
    you. I am So Very Grateful! You people are

    I think, though, that what I had better do is give
    Howard a chance to be here. I don't think he
    reallly thought all this through. He is new. I
    want him to be able to get to know you as I
    know you and to be able to freely join in on
    the discussions.

    Howard, if you feel like mistakes have been
    made, please forgive me. I am sincerely sorry.
    Unless you give me permission, I will not
    answer your posts, but I may answer others on
    threads where you write. Let us not allow this to
    divide the board. Really, you are not the only
    one here who has a problem with me, so don't
    feel bad.

    I am not going to write, except on the women
    only board and to answer my PMs for a full week,
    giving you time to come here freely. You Will Not
    Be The Subject Of Gossip!

    I am sure everyone will understand.
  2. Jim1999

    Jim1999 <img src =/Jim1999.jpg>

    Aug 10, 2002
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    I offer my sincere apologies from all those who claim to be a Baptist. That was rude of PreacherHoward and certainly uncalled for.

    I may differ with your views as well, but I would never bring it up here or anywhere. We are one in the Lord Jesus Christ and that is the first and foremost consideration.

    Cheers to you, and God bless.


    (temporarily not a moderator at my request)
  3. Dr. Bob

    Dr. Bob Administrator

    Jun 30, 2000
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    Being somewhat Messianic background myself, I have found that "normal" Baptists find the constant references and attitude of such folks, mildly interesting (it is new and different, for a while) then grating and irritating.

    People do not like to be "put down" - de facto - by someone who always has a different way of looking at things (compared to the way it is usually looked at in "normal" Baptist churches).
  4. Ben W

    Ben W Active Member
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    Sep 16, 2002
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    You are a beautifull person Abiyah, I wish I had the same Humble spirit that you have. [​IMG]
  5. massdak

    massdak Active Member
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    Oct 27, 2002
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    isnt it just like a women to get emotional. (just kidding) as long as you are not liberal, i do not mix well with liberals. anyway hang in there and God bless
  6. Bible Believing Bill

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    Jun 27, 2001
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    The attitude you have shown here is what we shold all attempt to show. It is very Christ like.

    I will miss your posts for the time you have chosen to sit out, as they are always very insightful.

  7. Sherrie

    Sherrie New Member

    Jul 28, 2002
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    Abiyah, you have just as much writing on any of these threads as anyone else!

    I am so sorry that was said to you! People who think like that, do not know compassion, or love. Some might even be Pastors, Preachers, and those in authority of the church. But if they do not have Compassion or Love, what do they have?

    Abiyah, you are a good Christian Woman. You devote your time to studying God's word and express with a desire in God's love. You have not done anything wrong. You have nothing to feel guilty of.

    We never always totally agree with someone, but this was so uncalled for. She still deserves respect! If this is allowed to go by without restitution, then whose next!? That was very wrong!

    I would like to ask the moderator of this forum to think seriously about what has happened here and let there be some restitution in Abiyah's favor!

    {{HUGS Sister!}}

  8. Hey sister, people like that aren't even worth listening to. I'm willing to bet he is a troll, and if he is actually a baptist pastor, he's gotta be the second biggest...oops I'm not allowed to say that word...I have ever met. Ignore him. He isn't worth the trouble. And at his current rate I'm willing to bet he will be banned before to long. We can pray for him though! Perhaps through our prayers he can be shown the love Christ has for him.
  9. Wisdom Seeker

    Wisdom Seeker New Member

    Jul 17, 2002
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    Isn't one of the things that the Lord hates someone who sews discord among brethren or stirs up strife? ;)

    John 13:34-35
  10. RomOne16

    RomOne16 New Member

    Jun 28, 2002
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    I am so sorry you were treated so badly in that thread. But, as usual, the Lords love is shining through you, and hopefully Howard will learn a valuable lesson from all of this.

    I just wanted to add my .02 worth and to let you know that you are loved here. [​IMG]
  11. Abiyah

    Abiyah <img src =/abiyah.gif>

    Jul 22, 2002
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    Well, it's been a week and a little more, so I
    wanted to come back and answer your very kind
    notes. You have all been so nice to me, and I
    first want to let you know that I appreciate all
    the supportive notes here as well as the ones
    sent by PM. You, and many others, make the
    Baptist Board such a pleasant place to be. 8o)

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    Jim 1999 --

    I appreciate all you have said so much. As I wrote
    to you before, it is all right to disagree with me
    publicly; that is not in the least offensive to me.
    My husband and I debate religious issues all
    the time and remain wonderful friends; we find it
    to be a great learning tool.

    And yes, I know all Baptists are not like that. 8o)
    The first Baptists I ever met, back in 1979, were a
    wonderful bunch, and I could count on one hand
    the ones since who have made me shudder. 8oD

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    Dr. Bob --

    I have tried to tone down my enthusiasm, but ap-
    parently, I have not done that enough. 8o) My in-
    tention is never to put anyone down when writing
    here, except for one time, to be explained later.

    We all have differing ways of seeing things;
    otherwise, this would probably not be such a
    lively board. You know, without my saying so,
    that we learn from one another because of those
    differences. I certainly am learning much here!!!
    Much of it from YOU, and I appreciate that.

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    Ben W --

    Thank you so much for your compliment. 8o) I
    will be saying something later in this note that
    may change your mind! 8o)

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    Massdak --

    Yeah, I am not much of a crier, but that day, I
    was overwhelmed with the people here. Yeah, I
    got emotional! 8oD

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    Bible Believing Bill --

    I appreciate your compliment. I tried to maintain
    a decent attitude, but as I will mention later, I was
    not without fault on that thread. Thank you for
    not seeing that.

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    Sherrie --

    (Who also has a daughter named Jennifer!) Thank
    you for backing me up! I do want you to know
    that the moderators and webmaster did go to bat
    for me--but then, you knew they would. Thank
    you so much--especially for the hugs!

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    Bro Adam --

    A troll? Perhaps! I don't know! I like your sug-
    gestion that we just pray for him. Maybe he is,
    as someone suggested, just young and inex-
    perienced. Shall I account for all the times I
    have stuck my foot in my mouth, and pride made
    me leave it there, while I inconveniently hopped
    about on one foot? Do you have a month for
    continuous dialogue? 8oD

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    Wisdom Seeker --

    You are right, as usual. 8o) I will say more about
    that later here. 8o)

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    RomOne16 --

    You said you hoped Howard learned a valuable
    lesson. I think he might have, but if not, I sure did!
    I will have to admit something about my "love
    shining through" . . . .

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    What I must say is that my second post on that
    thread was a retort to Howard that was really not
    very nice of me. Sure, I was taken aback, but I
    retorted, "Are you afraid to answer?" That was
    uncalled for, and I apologize.

    While Howard was admittedly out of hand, that
    response from me was the main reason I be-
    lieved I needed to be quiet for a while in order to
    give him a chance.

    I apologize to all here for that remark and for
    the attitude I had which brought me to write it.
    My intention is to also learn from that and to put
    effort into not allowing such things to happen

    To the one on the deleted thread who questioned
    why I attend a synagogue rather than a church --

    Probably for the same reasons each person
    here has found a place of worship which is
    closest to their concepts of the Bible and to their
    tendencies--from the liberal Baptists to the fun-
    damental Baptists. I needed a place where the
    pastors are not on pedistals but where they
    make themselves vulnerable to scrutiny and to
    the congregation. This is a big deal to me after
    being in a place where the pastors and ministers
    were kept above all criticism--especially that
    which they most profoundly deserved.

    I need credability in leadership, and it is pro-
    foundly there. I need excellent teaching and
    help getting beyond the abuse of that old church,
    and it is profoundly there. And yes, I need both
    educational and spiritual support, and both are

    I do want to explain one more thing: I cannot
    prove that I am Jewish. Today, as you know,
    Jewishness is technically passed down through
    the mother, and I doubt she has any Jewish back-
    ground. However, it is thought that Father may be
    of Jewish descent. (Regardless of that, my hus-
    band is of Jewish descent.)

    However, I did not learn that I may be of some
    Jewish descent until after I joined my synagogue.
    I would be a member there regardless of any back-
    ground. Since I was a very young child, this is the
    direction I have been headed, and I love it there.
    The only reason I never went to a synagogue
    earlier in life is because then, I did not know that
    there were any which recognized our Lord as the

    The people there love our Risen Lord, and they
    worship Him as the one and only Messiah,
    the King of kings, the Lord of lords, the returning
    Son of our God.

    Both pastors were reared in Baptist pastors'
    homes and educated in Baptist colleges. One
    has taught in a Baptist college. Our beliefs are
    based upon Baptist beliefs but geared toward
    Jews and toward the salvation of both Jews
    and non-Jews. We are very orthodox in our
    beliefs, as regards Jewish beliefs, except that
    we have recognized the one and only Messiah.

    We are not charismatic, as many Messianic
    congregations are--far, far from it. We are
    very serious about our Lord and the Bible.

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    Again, Thank You All So Much!!!

    [ December 19, 2002, 07:29 AM: Message edited by: Abiyah ]