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The Truth About Dr. Walter Martin and The Seventh-Day Adventist Church

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by thatbrian, Feb 11, 2018.

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  1. Yeshua1

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    So eating pork and worshipping on Sunday will cause one to lose eternal life?
     
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    Try this... 'read'.

    Look at my actual post.
    I did not mention Sunday or pork in it.
     
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    So a Christian who enjoys eating Pork and worshiping on Sunday, not the Sabbath , will be all acceptable to God then?
     
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    Sunday worship and pork are other people's topic. I was talking about actually reading the Bible AND accepting it.

    The only thing I added was that bit about "eating mice"

    Isaiah 66 says someone is going to burn in hell for eating mice... you knew that right?

    But he who kills an ox is like one who slays a man;
    He who sacrifices a lamb is like the one who breaks a dog’s neck;
    He who offers a grain offering is like one who offers swine’s blood;
    He who burns incense is like the one who blesses an idol.
    As they have chosen their own ways,
    And their soul delights in their abominations,
    4 So I will choose their punishments
    And will bring on them what they dread.
    Because I called, but no one answered;
    I spoke, but they did not listen.
    And they did evil in My sight
    And chose that in which I did not delight.”
    ...
    15 For behold, the Lord will come in fire
    And His chariots like the whirlwind,

    To render His anger with fury,
    And His rebuke with flames of fire.
    16 For the Lord will execute judgment by fire
    And by His sword on all flesh
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    And those slain by the Lord will be many.
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    17 “Those who sanctify and purify themselves to go to the gardens,
    Following one in the center,
    Who eat swine’s flesh, detestable things and mice,
    Will come to an end altogether,” declares the Lord


    John 9
    41 Jesus said to them, “If you were blind, you would have no sin; but since you say, ‘We see,’ your sin remains.
     
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    So does God require us to avoid pork, and only honor the Sabbath now under the New Covenant?
     
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    New Covenant -- Old Testament -- Jeremiah 31:31-33

    Sunday worship and pork are other people's topic. I was talking about actually reading the Bible AND accepting it.

    The only thing I added was that bit about "eating mice"

    Isaiah 66 says someone is going to burn in hell for eating mice... you knew that right?

    But he who kills an ox is like one who slays a man;
    He who sacrifices a lamb is like the one who breaks a dog’s neck;
    He who offers a grain offering is like one who offers swine’s blood;
    He who burns incense is like the one who blesses an idol.
    As they have chosen their own ways,
    And their soul delights in their abominations,
    4 So I will choose their punishments
    And will bring on them what they dread.
    Because I called, but no one answered;
    I spoke, but they did not listen.
    And they did evil in My sight
    And chose that in which I did not delight.”
    ...
    15 For behold, the Lord will come in fire
    And His chariots like the whirlwind,

    To render His anger with fury,
    And His rebuke with flames of fire.
    16 For the Lord will execute judgment by fire
    And by His sword on all flesh
    ,
    And those slain by the Lord will be many.
    .
    17 “Those who sanctify and purify themselves to go to the gardens,
    Following one in the center,
    Who eat swine’s flesh, detestable things and mice,
    Will come to an end altogether,” declares the Lord


    John 9
    41 Jesus said to them, “If you were blind, you would have no sin; but since you say, ‘We see,’ your sin remains.


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    Give me the Bible AND the Words IN the Bible.!! :)
     
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    People will be in hell due to being sinners, who rejected Jesus, not due to Sabbath/pork or any other minor issue!
     
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    less creative writing... more Bible please

    John 14:15 "IF you Love Me KEEP My Commandments"
    Exodus 20:6 "Love Me and KEEP My Commandments"
    1 John 5:2-3 "this IS the Love of God that we KEEP His Commandments"
     
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    Thankfully, my assurance rests on Christ's love for me, not my love for Him.
     
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    And yet - 2 Thess 2:9-10 "still exists"
    9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie

    So instead of one or the other being true - both are true.
     
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