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The UK, The Modern Day Sodom!

Scarlett O.

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Both the UK and the United States [and the rest of the world] have LONG PASSED Sodom and Gomorrah.

God said to Jerusalem in the book of Ezekiel: "As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord, your sister Sodom and her daughters never did what you and your daughters have done. Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen."

God proclaimed Jerusalem as being worse.

Jesus told Caperaum that they were going to hell. Why? Because if the miracles they had seen Jesus perform had been performed in Sodom, then Sodom would still be standing. And that on judgment day - it will be more tolerable for the people of Sodom than for the people of Capernaum.

The world today boasts more of its sin, airs its sin as fun and wonderful, and spits in God's face MORE.

I daresay that it will be more tolerable for Sodom than for most of Americans and British and the rest of the modern world on judgment day.

Besides - Jude says that the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah was for our example of what happens to ungodly people.

The Bible never states that Sodom and Gomorrah were the worst of sinners.
 

Aaron

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Both the UK and the United States [and the rest of the world] have LONG PASSED Sodom and Gomorrah.

God said to Jerusalem in the book of Ezekiel: "As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord, your sister Sodom and her daughters never did what you and your daughters have done. Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen."

God proclaimed Jerusalem as being worse.

Jesus told Caperaum that they were going to hell. Why? Because if the miracles they had seen Jesus perform had been performed in Sodom, then Sodom would still be standing. And that on judgment day - it will be more tolerable for the people of Sodom than for the people of Capernaum.

The world today boasts more of its sin, airs its sin as fun and wonderful, and spits in God's face MORE.

I daresay that it will be more tolerable for Sodom than for most of Americans and British and the rest of the modern world on judgment day.

Besides - Jude says that the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah was for our example of what happens to ungodly people.

The Bible never states that Sodom and Gomorrah were the worst of sinners.
Yes, make sure we don't preach too harshly against Sodom, the city in which the men gathered without fear of reprisal to rape Lot's visitors, and threatened worse to Lot if he stood in their way?

I wonder how the children fared in that city? (Well . . . we know what was about to happen to Lot's virgin daughters.)

Christ's point wasn't to mitigate the exceeding wickedness of that city, to which, knowing their predisposition to respond to the message of grace, He sent no prophet, and gave no offer of salvation.

It was to magnify the wickedness of antichrist.

Be careful in thinking that because blasphemy and spite against the Holy Ghost will be unforgiven that God winks at sodomy.
 

Yeshua1

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Yes, make sure we don't preach too harshly against Sodom, the city in which the men gathered without fear of reprisal to rape Lot's visitors, and threatened worse to Lot if he stood in their way?

I wonder how the children fared in that city? (Well . . . we know what was about to happen to Lot's virgin daughters.)

Christ's point wasn't to mitigate the exceeding wickedness of that city, to which, knowing their predisposition to respond to the message of grace, He sent no prophet, and gave no offer of salvation.

It was to magnify the wickedness of antichrist.

Be careful in thinking that because blasphemy and spite against the Holy Ghost will be unforgiven that God winks at sodomy.
Worst sin will be to reject Jesus as Lord!@
 

Aaron

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Sodom didn't murder the Son of God, so there's that. We should think about that the next time we hear of child abuse, molestation and rape.
 

Yeshua1

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Sodom didn't murder the Son of God, so there's that. We should think about that the next time we hear of child abuse, molestation and rape.
They would not have killed Him, but would have tried to do gross and indecent things!
 

Scarlett O.

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Yes, make sure we don't preach too harshly against Sodom, the city in which the men gathered without fear of reprisal to rape Lot's visitors, and threatened worse to Lot if he stood in their way?

I wonder how the children fared in that city? (Well . . . we know what was about to happen to Lot's virgin daughters.)

Christ's point wasn't to mitigate the exceeding wickedness of that city, to which, knowing their predisposition to respond to the message of grace, He sent no prophet, and gave no offer of salvation.

It was to magnify the wickedness of antichrist.

Be careful in thinking that because blasphemy and spite against the Holy Ghost will be unforgiven that God winks at sodomy.
I never said that God winked at sodomy. I never implied that. God burned Sodom, Gomorrah, and surrounding towns to the ground as an example of hell for their abominations - so says Jude.

I never said Sodom wasn't wicked. In fact, I listed their sins that the Bible lists - which includes "detestable things" [sodomy].

I stated that God claimed that his people have behaved worse. I didn't say that - God did. More times than I listed in my first post. At least 3-4 times that I have found in scriptures.

There are WAY too many Christians today who believe that because they aren't gay that their sins don't stink. They HATE homosexuals to the point that it's almost as if homosexuality is the only sin one can commit. And that because God hasn't burnt them to the ground as an example of hell that somehow they are going to slide on by and that God is going to say, "Come on in friend, you never committed sodomy - you're good."

Being homosexual - it's a grievous sin. So are all the other sins and when God says that someone behaves in a worse manner - I take him at his word.

I'm not downplaying sodomy.
 

Aaron

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On the subject of the Sodom and Gomorrah, I wouldn't think this was an isolated event. Have you seen the frescos they uncovered in Pompeii? (Before you Google them, be warned they're pornographic.) Another city with it's sister, Herculaneum, suddenly destroyed by fire and brimstone.

I wonder if there were a city located where the Chicxulub Crater is now? It may predate the Flood, though, and we are told of the wickedness in the days of Noah.

And the Yellowstone Caldera is just sitting there, waiting . . . waiting . . .
 

Aaron

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They would not have killed Him, but would have tried to do gross and indecent things!
Not if the works that were done in Jerusalem were done there. But anyway, again, America and the UK haven't yet gotten to the point where heaven and earth will respond, but we're getting there.

The thing that Sodom did not do was commit the unforgiveable sin. That's Christ's point. It wasn't that the iniquity of Jerusalem abounded (though it did in their hearts). They weren't obese and going after strange flesh. Idolatry was the thing. Hardness of heart. So hard that, knowing better, they ascribed the work of the Holy Spirit to the Devil.

I think Democrats are dangerously close to that, such absolute liars even when knowing the truth.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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From that article (boldface added):

This line of questioning is reminiscent of the behaviour of a Humberside police constable who in 2019 interrogated Lincolnshire businessman Harry Miller after he liked a Twitter post apparently mocking transgenderism. The officer told Miller, himself a former policeman, during a 34-minute telephone call: 'I need to check your thinking.'

In 2020, the High Court ruled that Humberside Police had unlawfully interfered with Miller's right to freedom of expression. Mr Justice Julian Knowles said: 'In this country we have never had a Cheka, a Gestapo or a Stasi. We have never lived in an Orwellian society.'

Supported by the Free Speech Union, Miller is currently taking legal action to prevent the police from recording 'Non-Crime Hate Incidents' about individuals accused of hate speech.​
 
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