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The United States of Islam?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by LadyEagle, Dec 10, 2005.

  1. LadyEagle

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  2. fromtheright

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    Thanks very much for this. This is why there must be an immediate drop in immigration numbers allowed from Middle Eastern countries. Islam is fundamentally at adds with Western political values.
     
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    When God's people fail to follow orders God turns them over to another group for punishment.
     
  4. Bunyon

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    When I was in school, I had a muslim friend who was very political but very nice. It was a Chritian school, but an "open minded" one, if you no what I mean. Our school had a partnership with King Khlid hospital in Saudie Arabia, and thus got many Arab Muslim students. One day we ate a sacrificed lamb form one of their rituals in one of the dorms. I went because I was invited, so did the chaplin. They were very enthusiastic about teaching about Islam at that event.

    Anyhow, as my friend continued to share with me he really wanted me to get a Koran. This is the surprising part. The Saudie Embassy give them away for free. All you got to do is call them. Ironic, if you remember all the fuss our military made about hiding you bible and being sensitive to the muslims while our soldiers were over there.
     
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    When I was in school, I had a Muslim friend who was very political but very nice. It was a Christian school, but an "open minded" one, if you no what I mean. Our school had a partnership with King Khlid hospital in Saudi Arabia, and thus got many Arab Muslim students. One day we ate a sacrificed lamb form one of their rituals in one of the dorms. I went because I was invited, so did the Chaplin. They were very enthusiastic about teaching about Islam at that event.

    Anyhow, as my friend continued to share with me he really wanted me to get a Koran. This is the surprising part. The Saudi Embassy give them away for free. All you got to do is call them. Ironic, if you remember all the fuss our military made about hiding you bible and being sensitive to the Muslims while our soldiers were over there.
     
  6. mioque

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    "This is why there must be an immediate drop in immigration numbers allowed from Middle Eastern countries."
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    To be more precise, you want an immediate drop in the number of Moslim immigrants. After all, many immigrants coming from Middle Eastern countries aren't be Moslims, they're Christians/Jews fleeing that environment.
     
  7. Bunyon

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    "To be more precise, you want an immediate drop in the number of Muslim immigrants. After all, many immigrants coming from Middle Eastern countries aren't be Muslims, they're Christians/Jews fleeing that environment.---------------------------------------------------------

    That would be my take on it. All the terrorist we have been dealing with from that part of the country were Muslim.

    I think we have every right to pic and choose what countries we allow immigrants from. But there is that element in America who think it is a god given right for foreigners to immigrate from wherever whenever.
     
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    I would only slightly disagree. There are also many Muslims who have escaped tyrannical regimes in the Middle East to come to America as well.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  9. fromtheright

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    mioque, you're right, but I don't know if we can exclude others due to religion. Joe B also makes an excellent point but that's why we don't cut it to zero, and I'm not sure that those requesting asylum are counted against quotas, I just don't know.
     
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    I question how many Jews are left in Islamic societies, especially in the Arab League. The way that I understand it, the Jews all left long ago and the Arabs kept all of their property. As for Christians in Arab lands, there are some in Egypt and in Lebanon, but where else?
     
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    There is a small Jewish population still left in Iraq. I remember, not long after America toppled the Saddam regime, ABC News did a story about a small Jewish community there. As for Christians, there are those who claim Christianity in Iraq, Lebanon, Greece and Palestinian territories.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  12. mioque

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    Syria has a significant Christian community as well.
    Beyond the Arab world, but part of the Middle East, Iraq and Turkye also have Christian minorities and Joseph is right ofcourse.
     
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    I don't see any way that the Ameican people will vote out the U.S. constitution in favor of the Koran - certainly not during the 21st century.
     
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    Ken, the way congress operates, it'll be tacked on (as a rider) to a defense bill, "that needs to be passed", (either as a national security measure or for the children :rolleyes: ), and 90% of the legislature will vote "AYE" without even knowing what they are voting for.
     
  16. KenH

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    Good one, j-w-p! [​IMG]
     
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    I think that there are more Mexicans left in Mexico than there are Christians and Jews or any other non-Islamic religion left in an Islamic country.
     
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    Good point, cmg.
     
  19. church mouse guy

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    Bunyon, I agree with you all the time. I am crazy about New Mexico. I used to live in El Paso 40 years ago. We used to go to Cloudcroft for picnics before the tourists went there at all (not to mention Ruidoso). I have been to Las Cruces a lot. Also, spent a week in Roswell, and I used to like Santa Fe before it grew so much. I have been to Kit Carson's home near Taos, also. Went to Dog Canyon near Alamagordo and took a small rock from the malpais. And I would like very much to see White Sands again.
     
  20. Bunyon

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    We have done most of those things, cmg. Too bad you did not buy some property way back when in cloudcroft, it is getting pricy up there now. They got a lot of Mountian lions now too. Saw one on the road one night. Very exciting.
     
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