The Unvaxed Are Lice: Has a Precedent

[JonC]

IMO, the Antichrist kingdom will be similar and even worse than the Holocaust. And that doesn't in any way diminish the Holocaust. Scriptures are clear that it is an extermination venture. And that venture will be worldwide.

You very well know that many Baptists believe that the scriptures prophecy this to come.

If that's not your escapology, fine. But it is the escapology of many Baptists, and this is supposed to be a Baptist Board.

The scriptures say "see the day approaching". Some of us see the day approaching. We shouldn't be called unchristian for believing what many Baptists believe.

I actually agree. We see "signs of the time" all around us (have for centuries).

An argument could also be made that this virus may be a part of the pestilence described by John.

But we are talking about very different things. I am talking about vaccines. You are talking about governments trying to manuplate people into taking vaccines.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

It is one thing to feel as if something could happen and yet another to discuss as if it has.

And then it is another thing to minimize the deaths of millions of families to support that (thus far) unsubstantiated opinion.

The OP is trying to do on this board what the Germans did during WW2 in terms of propaganda (even using their propaganda for his own agenda).

If the only people who think that the vaccinated people could in the future believe the unvaccinated are lice then it is the unvaccinated who have those feelings that should examine their own bigotry.

It was meant as an analogy… nothing more and nothing less.

 

[JonC]

It was meant as an analogy… nothing more and nothing less.

We should not use the Holocaust as an analogy. That is my point.

It is wrong for two reasons.

1. @SGO is doing what the German propaganda machine did in WW2. It was wrong of them and it is wrong of him (Germans were not the only ones dehumanizing people, BTW).

2. @SGO is minimalizing the deaths of over 6,000,000 human beings and the evils of Hitler by the "illustration".

 

[SGO]

I stand by my opinion.
Hopefully I am wrong.
Grace to you.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

We should not use the Holocaust as an analogy. That is my point.

It is wrong for two reasons.

1. @SGO is doing what the German propaganda machine did in WW2. It was wrong of them and it is wrong of him (Germans were not the only ones dehumanizing people, BTW).

2. @SGO is minimalizing the deaths of over 6,000,000 I’ve human beings and the evils of Hitler by the "illustration".

sure there was Stalin and the USA put people in exclusion camps for just being Japanese and Italians…and Jewish refugees from Europe were turned away from the U S for attempting to seek asylum. We can go into a long litany of dehumanization but they had to put up with. My own relatives … well that’s another story.

So are you suggesting that SGO intentionally tried to demonize and dehumanize Jews? If so, I don’t see it… what I see is his drawing an analogy, perhaps a poorly considered one, but an analogy none the less.

 

[JonC]

sure there was Stalin and the USA put people in exclusion camps for just being Japanese and Italians…and Jewish refugees from Europe were turned away from the U S for attempting to seek asylum. We can go into a long litany of dehumanization but they had to put up with. My own relatives … well that’s another story.

So are you suggesting that SGO intentionally tried to demonize and dehumanize Jews? If so, I don’t see it… what I see is his drawing an analogy, perhaps a poorly considered one, but an analogy none the less.

The exclusion camps would probably have been a better illustration of his fears.

I cannot speak to @SGO 's intent. I can say the post itself diminishes the evils of the Nazi's. And he is using the same tactic as the poster in the op. But I suspect it was an emotional reaction to his fears about what he believes others may think in the future. I do not believe he was intentionally making light of 6 million dead Jews.

 

[Wingman68]

Doctor Wants To Be 'Scary To The Public' And Inflate COVID Numbers, 'If You Don't Get Vaccinated, You Know You're Going To Die' - National File

I have currently zero faith in the government, medical industry, or, for that matter, possibly 50% of the population. When I consider what is being done, not just in this country, but globally, I find it to be EVERY bit as ghastly as every other genocide that has ever happened. To ignore the possible ramifications is to facilitate the evil.

 

[JonC]

Doctor Wants To Be 'Scary To The Public' And Inflate COVID Numbers, 'If You Don't Get Vaccinated, You Know You're Going To Die' - National File

I have currently zero faith in the government, medical industry, or, for that matter, possibly 50% of the population. When I consider what is being done, not just in this country, but globally, I find it to be EVERY bit as ghastly as every other genocide that has ever happened. To ignore the possible ramifications is to facilitate the evil.

Thar is a NC doctor lying to get people vaccinated. The government says the unvaccinated have a good chance of surviving covid.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

The exclusion camps would probably have been a better illustration of his fears.

I cannot speak to @SGO 's intent. I can say the post itself diminishes the evils of the Nazi's. And he is using the same tactic as the poster in the op. But I suspect it was an emotional reaction to his fears about what he believes others may think in the future. I do not believe he was intentionally making light of 6 million dead Jews.

Agreed

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Thar is a NC doctor lying to get people vaccinated. The government says the unvaccinated have a good chance of surviving covid.

I sincerely wish that there were other (conventional) treatments for this darn virus that targeted the patient with quick, safe and efficient care. As I understand, this virus attacks the respiratory system, inflaming the lungs. Shouldn’t an anti inflammatory work to keep the patient outa distress?

 

[JonC]

I sincerely wish that there were other (conventional) treatments for this darn virus that targeted the patient with quick, safe and efficient care. As I understand, this virus attacks the respiratory system, inflaming the lungs. Shouldn’t an anti inflammatory work to keep the patient outa distress?

I don't know. I guess it depends on exactly what damage is done by the virus.

I'd think the best they can do is treat the symptoms if they get severe and hope for the best (not sure treatment is a one size fits all type of thing).

We have a friend in TN whose daughter had covid. Mild case but left a blood clot and she had a stroke (fully recovered now). A relative had a mild case but is having heart issues now. The owner of Texas Roadhouse killed himself because he could no longer live with the after effects of covid. Seems there is not just one issue.

 

[Andre]

He is not saying that... he is suggesting that there some scum of the earth who are suggesting that the unvaccinated are virus spreaders...

They are virus spreaders. Your point?

The obvious point is this: while the vaccinated can still get sick and transmit, the evidence shows that, per person, the unvaccinated are more likely to be virus spreaders.

This is these discussions invariably go - those opposed to vaccination make inflammatory, vague, and unsubstantiated claims such as implying that people are saying "the unvaxxed are lice". And we, on the pro-vax site simply offer scientific evidence from credible sources.

 

[Andre]

I have currently zero faith in the government, medical industry,...

Really? You do not believe the medical experts when they proclaim, for example:

- smoking causes cancer?
- obesity is bad for health?
- vegetables are good for you and donuts are not?
- vaccines prevent polio, smallpox, and a host of other diseases?
- exercise promotes health?
- colonoscopies starting at 50 save lives?

I suggest your skepticism about the medical establishment is not justified by a sober consideration of all the data. Yes, there are legitimate concerns about the medical industry distorting things to make money. But there are solid systems in place to keep this to a minimum.

When I consider what is being done, not just in this country, but globally, I find it to be EVERY bit as ghastly as every other genocide that has ever happened. To ignore the possible ramifications is to facilitate the evil.

What, exactly, is it that is going on in your country that is so "ghastly" and can be compared to genocide?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

They are virus spreaders. Your point?

The obvious point is this: while the vaccinated can still get sick and transmit, the evidence shows that, per person, the unvaccinated are more likely to be virus spreaders.

This is these discussions invariably go - those opposed to vaccination make inflammatory, vague, and unsubstantiated claims such as implying that people are saying "the unvaxxed are lice". And we, on the pro-vax site simply offer scientific evidence from credible sources.

Go take a flying leap for yourself.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Really? You do not believe the medical experts when they proclaim, for example:

- smoking causes cancer?
- obesity is bad for health?
- vegetables are good for you and donuts are not?
- vaccines prevent polio, smallpox, and a host of other diseases?
- exercise promotes health?
- colonoscopies starting at 50 save lives?

I suggest your skepticism about the medical establishment is not justified by a sober consideration of all the data. Yes, there are legitimate concerns about the medical industry distorting things to make money. But there are solid systems in place to keep this to a minimum.


What, exactly, is it that is going on in your country that is so "ghastly" and can be compared to genocide?

Canadian and their socialist agendas provide us US citizens with enough exposure to Marxism to reject that and denounce you.

 

[Andre]

Canadian and their socialist agendas provide us US citizens with enough exposure to Marxism to reject that and denounce you.

All right, professor, why don't you explain to us all how there is even a sniff of Marxism north of the border?

Where do you guys pick up this stuff anyway?

 

[Wingman68]

Really? You do not believe the medical experts when they proclaim, for example:

- smoking causes cancer?
- obesity is bad for health?
- vegetables are good for you and donuts are not?
- vaccines prevent polio, smallpox, and a host of other diseases?
- exercise promotes health?
- colonoscopies starting at 50 save lives?

Rhetorical, ignorant questions that I don’t need advice for, from the medical industry. BTW, stop wasting our time with your polio vax rhetoric, it wasn’t sprung on the public in less than two years, & wasn’t experimental. I wish you were as quick as you think you are. It would be more fun to engage, instead of just being annoying.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

All right, professor, why don't you explain to us all how there is even a sniff of Marxism north of the border?

Where do you guys pick up this stuff anyway?

Like I said genius, go take a flying leap for yourself.

 

[Andre]

Rhetorical, ignorant questions that I don’t need advice for, from the medical industry. BTW, stop wasting our time with your polio vax rhetoric, it wasn’t sprung on the public in less than two years, & wasn’t experimental. I wish you were as quick as you think you are. It would be more fun to engage, instead of just being annoying.

Why are you evading my point and putting up a strawman?

I was critiquing this statement of yours:

I have currently zero faith in the government, medical industry,...

We were not talking about the "experimental" nature of the vaccine or the speed with which it was developed.

 

[Andre]

Like I said genius, go take a flying leap for yourself.

Is this how you evade a perfectly legitimate question ?

Again: why don't you explain to us all how there is even a sniff of Marxism north of the border?