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Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by Bro. Williams, Aug 19, 2007.

  1. franklinmonroe

    franklinmonroe Active Member

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    If my posts are reviewed carefully it can be seen that I think most of these do not affect doctrine. But for example, what doctrines are made more sure by these verses? --
    Acts 15:34 - Notwithstanding it pleased Silas to abide there still.

    Acts 24:7 - But the chief captain Lysias came [upon us], and with great violence took [him] away out of our hands,

    Acts 28:29 - And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves.

    Romans 16:24 - Salute Asyncritus, Phlegon, Hermas, Patrobas, Hermes, and the brethren which are with them.​
     
  2. Ed Edwards

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    Check crosswalk.com -- thier KJV1769 Edition has
    the Translator Footnotes. I don't know why
    people started printing KJVs without the Translator
    Footnotes???
     
  3. franklinmonroe

    franklinmonroe Active Member

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    You have assumed that all manuscripts were copied by professional scribes, which is incorrect.
     
  4. Rufus_1611

    Rufus_1611 New Member

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    Alright, studying the NIV in depth, and using inspired scripture only, does the NIV conclude that casting out the devil of a lunatic child is done by prayer and fasting and if so, what verses is this demonstrated in?

     
  5. Rufus_1611

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    What post are you quoting me from?
     
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    Actually I assumed you wouldn’t do it;
    But assumed that if you did it there would be errors.

    I also assumed that you would have an excuse for your errors, such as lack of inspiration... but everybody here already knows that.

    Rob
     
  7. Rufus_1611

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    Which is truth? Which did Jesus Christ say? Did He say nothing or did He say whatever is in the footnote?
     
  8. Rufus_1611

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    If most do not affect doctrine, is that a concession that some do?
     
  9. tinytim

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    When I find a lunatic child that needs the devil cast from him or her.. i will refer them to you....:laugh:


    Seriously..
    What do you do when no other scriptures support a doctrine except one?

    Doctrines built upon one verse of scripture are dangerous doctrines.

    This is where we get devil chasing faith healers that won't go to Micky Ds...

    If I knew I was facing a devil ... I would certainly fast... not based on this verse, but to spend time with God.
    Fasting would come natural...
     
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  10. Rufus_1611

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    What are you saying? When did devils stop possessing children?


    According to whom? If we are to live by every word of God, how many times does He have to say something before we are to obey? Regardless, here's your second verse...


    "And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting." - Mark 9:29
     
  11. av1611jim

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    See my answers above in bold script.

    Keep digging bro. You just might find the truth yet!:thumbs:
     
  12. franklinmonroe

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    These verses are similar or parallel to 7 of the 'omitted' examples given in the OP --
    Luke 19:10, NIV - For the Son of Man came to seek and to save what was lost. (virtually the same as Matthew 18:11, KJV)

    Mark 12:40, NIV - They devour widows' houses and for a show make lengthy prayers. Such men will be punished most severely.
    Luke 20:47, NIV - They devour widows' houses and for a show make lengthy prayers. Such men will be punished most severely. (these are both virtually same as Matthew 23:14, KJV)

    Mark 9:48, NIV - where ‘their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched.’ (virtually the same as both Mark 9:44 and 46, KJV)

    Matthew 6:15, NIV- But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins. (virtually the same as Mark 11:26, KJV)

    Matthew 24:40, NIV - Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. (virtually the same as Luke 17:36, KJV)

    Matthew 27:15, NIV - Now it was the governor's custom at the Feast to release a prisoner chosen by the crowd.
    Mark 15:6, NIV - Now it was the custom at the Feast to release a prisoner whom the people requested.
    John 18:39, NIV - But it is your custom for me to release to you one prisoner at the time of the Passover. Do you want me to release ‘the king of the Jews’? (all three of these are virtually the same as Luke 23:17, KJV)​

    Combined with my previous posts, I believe it has been shown that at least 13 of the 17 in the OP are not doctrinal threats. It is my personal concession that some might.
     
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  13. tinytim

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    No I do believe in possession still today...
    Notice the last part of my post that you didn't quote.
     
  14. Rufus_1611

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    I didn't quote it 'cuz it wasn't there when I hit the quote button. What is the big yuk then about you sending me a lunatic child?
     
  15. tinytim

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    It was stupid joke. :laugh: :wavey: I'm not being funny today.:tonofbricks: Forget i said it.:tear:
     
  16. Bro. Williams

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    Giving me the benefit of the doubt is rarely a good thing...

    "Making fun of" is a fine way to describe what I was doing... I was saying we define "Bible" differently. I understand your misunderstanding though.
     
  17. Ed Edwards

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    Joh 21:25 (KJV1611 Edition):
    And there are also many other things
    which Iesus did, the which if they should be written
    euery one, I suppose that euen the world
    it selfe could not conteine the bookes
    that should be written, Amen.
    //

    'conteine' - my spelling is going South reading the KJV1611 Edition :(

    IMHO your question leads you to error.
    IMHO God intended for BOTH messages to come through.
    Both messages are more than the sum of each of the
    two messages.

    One misses the message by asking bad questions.
    PRAISE GOD WHO has preserved in His Divine Wisdom
    many of the Words of Messiah Yeshlua in the Holy Bibles:
    many English Bibles for many diferent ages, climes, and peoples.
    AMEN!
     
  18. Rufus_1611

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    IMHO your answer leads you to error.
    IMHO God promised to inspire scripture and you've got him inspiring footnotes.
    Both messages are opposed to each other. One says Jesus Christ said nothing, the other says Jesus Christ said something. If he said nothing, it should be omitted from scripture, if He said something it should be included.
     
  19. Ed Edwards

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    Rufus_1611: //IMHO your answer leads you to error.//

    IMHO my answer is God's Truth.
    This would be a real good time for you to give
    your testimonies concerning how God used
    you and your fasting & prayers to cast out
    deamons. You mental consent & even your
    faith is useless in following the way of the cross
    without some works.

    Rufus_1611 //IMHO God promised to inspire scripture
    and you've got him inspiring footnotes.//

    IMHO God promised to inspire scripture
    and you don't have enough faith to believe
    God did that with the NIV. By contrast with you,
    Dear Brother Rufus_1611 -- I have seen/felt/experienced
    deamons leaving plagued persons (who where then
    saved when Jesus saved them and the Holy Spirit
    came into their lives). One of those times I was
    actually FEASTING in a public resturant.
    I was reading the NIV to a young man who
    was plagued with a bi-sexual deamon.
    That deamon left the young man and he was
    saved. I haven't heard from him for some 23 years,
    but I'll meet him in heaven.
     
  20. Rufus_1611

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    Which is truth. The scripture or the footnote?
     
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