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There's more than one resurrection

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by George Antonios, Jan 22, 2020.

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  1. George Antonios

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    Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life,
    and some to shame and everlasting contempt.


    John 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life;
    and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.


    The highlighted commas in the verses above encapsulate at least 1,000 years of time separating the first resurrection from the second resurrection.

     
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    In Daniel, the second resurrection (the resurrection of the damned) says they awake to shame and everlasting contempt. Now from a NT perspective, holding sinners like us in contempt because they did not hear or understand or accept fully the gospel seems less than humble. The word translated as contempt is also translated as abhorrence. So perhaps the best way to understand the meaning is to say they awake to eternal dishonor which we should abhor (abhorring the dishonor).
     
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    Yes, as the saved in Christ rise up at his second coming, while the lost do such at time of the GWT..
     
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    It's not because they did not hear or "fully accept" (what does that mean anyway?).
    "less than humble or not", that's what the word of God says and I'm not going to correct it, especially when God himself says: they that despise me shall be lightly esteemed (1Sa.2:30) and when I read things like:
    Psa 149:6 Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a twoedged sword in their hand;
    Psa 149:7 To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people;
    Psa 149:8 To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron;
    Psa 149:9 To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the LORD.
     
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    That's the abridged version, yes.
     
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    In all actuality there are three... The first is the resurrection of Jesus Christ the Son Of God

    1 Corinthians 15:12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?

    15:13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:

    15:14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.

    15:15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.

    15:16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:

    15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

    15:18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.

    15:19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

    The second is the resurrection in this life of all God's blood bought children called regeneration.

    John 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

    5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

    5:27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.

    Then there is the third and final one, new day different hour

    John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

    5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

    Would you brethren quit trying to shove the thousand reign of Christ down our throat, I and some others on here don't believe it... Thank you!... Brother Glen:)
     
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    We do not equate the First resurrection to be when reborn again, but as when raised up in a glorified body....
     
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    Ok I'm going to quote scripture, you quote what you want... I said Christ was the first resurrection... The unregenrate man is DEAD!... Because scripture says so... Brother Glen:)

    1 Corinthians 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

    15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

    15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

    15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
     
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    Yes, and those of us alive and dead in Him at the time of his second coming make up the completed ones in that First resurrection, as it started with Him, and ends at His Coming again.
     
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    There is another resurrection shortly after Christ's resurrection of righteous people recorded in scripture.

    Matthew 27:50-53 NASB
    50 And Jesus cried out again with a loud voice, and yielded up His spirit. 51 And behold, the [z]veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth shook and the rocks were split. 52 The tombs were opened, and many bodies of the [aa]saints who had fallen asleep were raised; 53 and coming out of the tombs after His resurrection they entered the holy city and appeared to many.

    I am currently studying if this resurrection is alluded to in the old testament. I think I have found some loose threads to study in the end times prophecies. This post reminds me that I should post my research when done.
     
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    There are 7 resurrections which form the 1st resurrection:
    1. Christ
    2. Many bodies of the saints right after his resurrection
    3. Christian Church
    4. The 2 witnesses
    5. Tribulation saints - The 144,000 and their followers (whoever had died in that group)
    6. Great tribulation saints
    7. O.T. Jews
     
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    Matthew 27's resurrection of saints along with Christ was prophesied of Isaiah:
    Isa 26:19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my [Christ's] dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.

    Of course Matthew 27 was only a partial fulfillment - a "firstfruits" harvest.
     
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    Those people would also be part of the First resurrection, as are all of us at time of the second coming!
     
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    All of the firstfruits will be included at time of second coming!
     
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    Those men have already been raised and raptured with Christ.
     
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    The ones at end of the Gospel you mean?
     
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    Yes. Sorry for not being clear.
     
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    I did not suggest we alter the meaning or assume the inspired text needs correcting, but rather we view the lost souls in Hades with dishonor and abhorrence.

    Some (the second soil of Matthew 13) superficially accept the gospel, but their commitment has not "root." That is a "less than fully accept" response.

    I think there is an important distinction between God's view of the lost (esteeming them lightly) and our view, there but by the grace of God goes me.
     
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