those "easily deceived" women.....

dcorbet--we used to be just across the state line, half way between Bloomfield and Farmington. Got much snow?

 

exactly, thats why those commercials exist, men are also easliyl decieved.

 

Wait a minute. Didn't you say on another thread that commercials didn't affect people? I disagreed with you then if you recall. Now you're saying that people can be deceived by commercials? I'm confused.

 

nope, not at all. I'm saying men are just as easily decieved as women, this is why they play men as much as they do women.
if you obey commercials thats your problem, but I do not run out and buy stuff because I saw a commercial, and never run to fast food or to buy junk I saw on tv, never buy frozen foods I saw on tv, don't buy unneeded junk I saw on tv. commercials do not rule us.

 

Ladies, I agree that men can be deceived, but God does make a special point that women should not teach nor have authority over a man because it was Adam who was created first (order) and it was Eve who was deceived (spiritual deception). See the verse I posted.

Do women tend to be more spiritually deceived than men? I think that is the implication of the verse or maybe it's that women tend to be more spiritually deceived if they are in a position of authority over men in the church. One can see the proliferation of liberal women pastors and see this. Just a thought, but we can't ignore that verse.

 

I haven't suggest we ignore any verse.
But I don't think that women in general are more easily decieved. As soon as we start that then nothing we ever say has merit again, we'll just be called decieved. Do you think your easily decieved, I know I am not.

 

This isn't a competition; we have to consider why God says this. Clearly, it is said for a reason.

No, I don't think I am easily deceived but I wouldn't totally count on not being deceived; that would be prideful and could lead to the very thing I don't think could happen.

 

But God didn't say women are more easily decieved.

I didn't think you were easliy decieved. Not being easily decieved is different then never being decieved.

 

That's not true, or you would not have voting privileges still. Women can turn the hearts of their men, and men will regard their women more than Christ, even when they know the consequences will be disastrous.

 

on this board in the past we've been told we were easily deceived and therefor practically stupid. and this was from a owman, guess she never stopped to think that involved her also, and that she no longer had merit either because of ehr own statement. some beleived her and treated women like this.
are we talking about the secular world here or christians and scripture? if we're talking about christians and scripture it has nothing to do with voteing.

 

Snowing tonight, as a matter of fact. We got DUMPED on a few weeks back, like 2 feet of snow. Farmington, Bloomfield, Aztec got hit too.
Four corners snow for the first time in many years....kinda killed Gore's global warming lies.

 

I've been a member this board since 2000, and I can tell you that your accusation is not wholly accurate.

Only in your mind, not mine. Truth and wisdom stand on their own merit. If what you say is in line with the Scriture, then it will be accepted by those who know the truth, regardless of your gender.

We are talking about Creation, and the natural order. It's universal.

It has everything to do with voting. Collective woman overruling the collective man is a sin that will be judged.

 

really? I can tell you exatly who said it. ranted and raved in the wpf for more then a week on it.

not what women were told then.

but not politics and secular society.

so you think women voting is a sin?

 

Right, God didn't say, "Women are more easily deceived," but He does make the deception of women a significant issue when it comes to her role in the church.

I disagree with Aaron regarding the voting issue - I think the point God is making has to do with the roles in the church.

 

Politics is all about natural order.

I think Suffrage is rebellion, but I think righteous women must vote to counter votes of the secular women. Unfortunately, many righteous women tend to believe the rhetoric of Socialists.

 

I'm starting a thread on biblical views of women voting.

 

You contradict yourself.

If it's rebellion, then why should "righteous women" get to "rebel" at all?

Two "wrongs" don't make a right.

 

Necessity knows no law. During David's flight, Ahimelech gave David and the men with him what was created only for the priests.

 

Excellent point. Excellent articulation.

 

How convenient for you.