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Thoughts on Ferguson

Thousand Hills

Active Member
Good Stuff :thumbsup:

http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/thoughts-on-ferguson


Again, this experience stayed with me for years. And for many of those years, I blamed “the system” or “the man.” However, I have come to realize that it was no more “the system” when white cops pulled me over than it was “the system” when a black thug robbed me at gunpoint. It was sin! The men who robbed me were sinners. The cops who stopped me were sinners. They were not taking their cues from some script designed to “keep me down.” They were simply men who didn’t understand what it meant to treat others with the dignity and respect they deserve as image bearers of God.
 

T Alan

New Member
The entire event and those like it around the world is just another chip in the pile of reasons that I cannot believe "Post Millennium" and those that say "Jesus is reigning now". Sin will not triumph when Jesus truly reigns. I agree that Jesus "spiritually reigns" in the heart of his converted elect but not in a literal sense.

(couln't let this post go without response, I will hold that title ;) )
 

Thousand Hills

Active Member
Yes I agree. Our problems are indeed rooted in our sins and flaws.

Why then are the threads here always dominated with rants about the side effects of the problem, yet there are no threads about any of us (myself included) asking prayers for going to the inner city and planting a church, or positive threads about folks who are working with fatherless children (white or black), or those going into jails and ministering,etc. I'm not talking about the social gospel, I'm talking about preaching Christ crucified. But what are we as Baptists doing here in our own country to point others to Christ. Why do we sit in our easy chair and continually put our trust in politicians to "fix" things?
 
Why then are the threads here always dominated with rants about the side effects of the problem, yet there are no threads about any of us (myself included) asking prayers for going to the inner city and planting a church, or positive threads about folks who are working with fatherless children (white or black), or those going into jails and ministering,etc. I'm not talking about the social gospel, I'm talking about preaching Christ crucified. But what are we as Baptists doing here in our own country to point others to Christ. Why do we sit in our easy chair and continually put our trust in politicians to "fix" things?

This post is easy to answer. We...myself included...expect others to do it for us. Sad, but true...
 

Van

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In the 1930's, many, perhaps most, citizens of Germany accepted the idea that a scapegoat (those evil Jews) were the cause of their travail. Many, if not most blacks in America accept the idea that the "whites" or other non-blacks, through racial bias are cause of their travail. Which party is fanning that flame? The demonstrators shout, we do not give an "F-bomb" for your laws. Which party fans that flame?
 

InTheLight

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I'm talking about preaching Christ crucified. But what are we as Baptists doing here in our own country to point others to Christ. Why do we sit in our easy chair and continually put our trust in politicians to "fix" things?

Wholeheartedly agree.

(Zaac, is that you?)
 

Revmitchell

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Why then are the threads here always dominated with rants about the side effects of the problem, yet there are no threads about any of us (myself included) asking prayers for going to the inner city and planting a church, or positive threads about folks who are working with fatherless children (white or black), or those going into jails and ministering,etc. I'm not talking about the social gospel, I'm talking about preaching Christ crucified. But what are we as Baptists doing here in our own country to point others to Christ. Why do we sit in our easy chair and continually put our trust in politicians to "fix" things?

Your mistake is assuming that what is posted on this forum matters and that it is a complete reflection of the lives of the posters.
 

Thousand Hills

Active Member
Your mistake is assuming that what is posted on this forum matters .

True to some degree, but do we not come here to discuss what is on our hearts. Do the discussions not have an impact not only for those who interact, but those lurking as well?

and that it is a complete reflection of the lives of the posters.

There are a lot of wonderful people here I'm sure that are doing a lot of work for the kingdom and they don't get on here and boast about it. That's fine with me. What I would like to see though is less "doom and gloom" in general.

For instance, it would be nice to see a running thread with links to different ministries around the country, shared by different posters who have had experience with that particular organization. Then others who have similar burdens for a particular ministry type could learn more about what these folks on the ground are doing and financially support or commit to praying for their work.

Here's an example, saw an interview the other day about this group:
http://www.bigoak.org/

Rev, I'm assuming you work on or near a reservation. That ground is hard, I've heard the native americans are the most evangelized people group with the least results. Why is that? Bad governmental policies over the years are a big part of it. And those "Christian" groups that have went there in the past have tried to bring too much change to make the native americans like whites. Suicide rates, domestic violence, and alcoholism are all major problems. While I support foreign missions, we tend to forget those in our own backyard. That's all I'm saying.
 

Revmitchell

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Rev, I'm assuming you work on or near a reservation. That ground is hard, I've heard the native americans are the most evangelized people group with the least results. Why is that? Bad governmental policies over the years are a big part of it. And those "Christian" groups that have went there in the past have tried to bring too much change to make the native americans like whites. Suicide rates, domestic violence, and alcoholism are all major problems. While I support foreign missions, we tend to forget those in our own backyard. That's all I'm saying.

All of that is certainly part of it but the issues run much deeper than that. It takes being there day in and day out being part of their lives to make a difference. That is the bottom line. Life in this area is rugged and the people are more rugged than the landscape. It takes hardy people who have a true sense they are to be here.
 

Thousand Hills

Active Member
All of that is certainly part of it but the issues run much deeper than that. It takes being there day in and day out being part of their lives to make a difference. That is the bottom line. Life in this area is rugged and the people are more rugged than the landscape. It takes hardy people who have a true sense they are to be here.

And a big thank you for your labors. :thumbs:

It is sad what this "Christian" nation has done and continues to do to the Native American people.
 
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