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THREE YEARS IN PRISON

Discussion in '2006 Archive' started by Brother James, Feb 20, 2006.

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  1. Brother James

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    http://apnews.myway.com//article/20060220/D8FT3CB81.html

    The only thing sicker than the mans doctrine is the verdict against him.


    VIENNA, Austria (AP) - Right-wing British historian David Irving was sentenced to three years in prison Monday after admitting to an Austrian court that he denied the Holocaust - a crime in the country where Hitler was born.
     
    #1 Brother James, Feb 20, 2006
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    Welcome to the age of thought police.
     
    #2 Bro. Curtis, Feb 20, 2006
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    Amen Bro Curtis.
     
    #3 hillclimber, Feb 20, 2006
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    Agreed. Bro. James is right on the money. Holocaust denial is the refuge of some real wackos and is a wacko idea, but it is wrong to throw someone in prison because of an historical belief.
     
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  5. Gina B

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    Stuff like that makes me feel thankful to be in the USA!
     
    #5 Gina B, Feb 20, 2006
  6. Brother James

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    1984...

    "The thought police would get him just the same. He had
    committed—would have committed, even if he had never set
    pen to paper—the essential crime that contained all others
    in itself. Thoughtcrime, they called it. Thoughtcrime was
    not a thing that could be concealed forever. You might dodge
    successfully for a while, even for years, but sooner or
    later they were bound to get you."

    "Thoughtcrime does not entail death: thoughtcrime is death."

    "And if all others accepted the lie which the Party
    imposed—if all records told the same tale—then the lie
    passed into history and became truth. 'Who controls the
    past' ran the Party slogan, 'controls the future: who
    controls the present controls the past.'"
     
    #6 Brother James, Feb 20, 2006
  7. Terry_Herrington

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    Spooky isn't it. I don't like it, even across the Atlantic.
     
    #7 Terry_Herrington, Feb 21, 2006
  8. Mike McK

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    As distasteful as I find his views, he has every right to have them.
     
    #8 Mike McK, Feb 21, 2006
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    Ironically, Hitler would have loved the idea of "thought crimes."

    The measure of a free society is the degree to which people with desipicable ideas are free to speak them.
     
    #9 The Galatian, Feb 25, 2006
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    Agree with the Galatian here. I am against hate speech legistlation.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #10 Joseph_Botwinick, Feb 25, 2006
  11. Jim1999

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    Stuff like that makes me feel thankful to be in the USA!
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    Some forget the McCarthy "thought" police in America. 100's were persecuted by a senate committee and smeared for life. The same country that burned Bibles during the Second World War.....oh right, they were printed in German!

    In Canada, Jehovah's Witnesses were jailed because they refused to take up arms. Baptist preachers were jailed for passing out gospel tracts in Quebec. The so-called free world is not without its faults when it comes to freedom of thought.

    We ought not to be too quick to judge another country, especially the country that felt the pains of anti-semitism and suffered ignomy in world history over having the dastardly camps in their country.

    Cheers,

    Jim

    PS. I quite agree that thought police are just plain wrong.
     
    #11 Jim1999, Feb 25, 2006
  12. Plain Old Bill

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    The guy is a nut job, but I did'nt know that was a criminal offence.
     
    #12 Plain Old Bill, Feb 25, 2006
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    Considering Austria's close relationship with Hitler and the holocaust, I can understand why they don't want to allow that seed to grow again.

    It's the law. He knowingly broke it. He pays the price.

    We can't impose our constitution and judicial process on other nations, however odious we find them.
     
    #13 carpro, Feb 25, 2006
  14. The Galatian

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    Except for Iraq.
     
    #14 The Galatian, Feb 27, 2006
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