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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by LadyEagle, Jun 1, 2009.

  1. RAdam

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    Surely you realize that belief is one of two requirements for baptism. The other? John the Baptist told the pharisees and sadducees that came to him to bring forth fruits meet for repentence. Noone openly engaged in a lifestyle of sin should be baptized until they have repented.
     
  2. Aaron

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    It's been a week since this monster was put in his place, and a few words to balance the lies of the press and the cowardly disclaimers from prolifers are in order.

    Did you feel like shouting when you heard the news? I did. One individual I was with applauded. When it goeth well with the righteous, the city rejoiceth: and when the wicked perish, there is shouting. As I said before, I don't mourn for him, his widow or his children, a family of ogres who profitted from his wholesale slaughter of innocents.

    I believe many of you felt like shouting, but have been brainwashed into thinking that it was really a suppressed desire for vengeance. But I'm here to tell you—no, King Solomon speaks from the grave to tell you—that you felt like shouting because you knew a wicked man perished.

    And not your run-of-the-mill wicked man. Not the drunkard in the gutter, not the wife-beater nor the pothead (we don't rejoice over their deaths), but a man who snuffed out the lives of helpless infants for profit, and did so with the overwhelming force of the State behind him not just to protect his profession, but to assist him and shield him from the punishment for the fraud he perpetrated to kill some infants who were still legally protected (and that only because of the tireless efforts of the prolife organizations).

    So if you felt like shouting, it's okay. Go for it. It is not unspiritual, and it's a reminder that no matter how it looks from the outside, the wicked will not go unpunished. And continue to pray that the end of America's Holocaust will be as abrupt.
     
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    Do we celebrate that any go to hell?

    Or do we mourn that someone didn't follow Christ and that they have no more chances?
     
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    I don't believe we celebrate any going to hell, but when a wicked man is slaughtering innocent children we do thank God that he has been stopped. And yes, many times that takes deadly force.

    What about all those children who did not have any chance to follow Christ?

    Tiller had years of chances and even sat in a church of professing Christians. That is worse than knowing God's way and rejecting it. God had a murderer sitting in one of His congregations and it appears that God said enough is enough for Tiller.

    :jesus:
     
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    I still do not celebrate the death of anyone - even if one is evil. I would not gloat nor would I cheer a man's death. That is just wrong for a child of God.
     
  6. Magnetic Poles

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    Unbelievable. <pa edited - LE>
     
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    And so, we should mourn the death of Hitler, Saddam, Pol Pot, and other wicked men who conducted genocide? What about the millions who have perished under their bloody hands?

    It is absurd! David celebrated the death of his enemies and the Bible states he was a "man after God's own heart." God himself will hold His enemies in "derision" (laughing) one day, to include wicked rulers and kings. Tiller used his gift of medical knowledge which came from God, and the blessings (talents, hands, mind, physical health, etc.) God gave him as one of God's own creation to snuff out thousands of lives of God's other creations.

    Do I hear the hoofbeats of a pious high horse around here?
     
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  8. Aaron

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    We will wash our feet in their blood. Ps. 58:10
     
  9. annsni

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    No - you hear someone who has a heart for the lost and mourns that one is lost - anyone.
     
  10. Aaron

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    You go ahead and mourn. I'll join Solomon and the company of saints who are doing otherwise.
     
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    Exodus 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
     
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    I do find it interesting that all of the verses used to justify rejoicing in the death of a human being are from the Old Testament and all from the mouths of man. If you want to use the Old Testament, Obadiah 1 is pretty clear.

    However, in the New Testament, we have a different attitude. We now have the ability for all men to be saved through the blood of the Lamb. If the angels rejoice when one comes to Christ, do you think they rejoice when one is lost? I don't think so. I don't see in Scripture where God rejoices when one is lost. Are we not to be like Christ? Was He not sad when the rich man walked away? Yes, this man did evil - there is no question about it. And I am glad that there are lives that might now be saved. But that doesn't mean that I rejoice over the loss of life. To do so would be inhuman - and unGodly.
     
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    We have always had this.

    We have no scripture to indicate one way or the other.

    And no one on this board is either. But what is bringing joy is the deaths of all those children he would kill has come to an end. That is worth all the joy in the world.

    Scripture said the Rich man walked away sorrowful not Christ.

    As we all should.
     
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    I rejoice that a baby murder mill is out of business.

    Also, for a guy who was rendering the Old Testament null & void, Christ sure spent a lot of time quoting it.
     
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    I'm not sure that it is wrong for a child of God to cheer over a man's death IF that man is slaughtering innocent life on a daily basis all the while serving in a church of Christ causing God's name to be blasphemed. It's not so much a cheering of the death but a cheering of the end of a murderer's rampage. This man was a cancer sitting among Christians and since this perish had no fear of God to remove the man God appears to have removed him in a very dramatic way, right before the congregation's eyes! Yet they probably don't see God in any of this.

    Would you pray to God saying PLAESE LORD stop this man from killing all of these babies and then mourn because God chose to stop him by taking the man's life?

    This man had years of opportunity to be God's friend, this man heard the gospel of Jesus Christ and this man chose to reject God and kill for profit. Now why should we mourn for this man? This man made his choice, this man made his bed, it's not like the man just didn't understand what he was doing.

    Do you realize Ann, that the only way evil is going to be irradicated from this earth is through death! Total annihilation by God Himself. Few enter into eternal life. The rest must be killed. That is God's word. It is sad that all will not call on God, but God knows this and has a plan to end all sin. It will be a horrible and joyful day. Scripture puts it like this..."The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come." (Joel 2:21)

    I understand your pov of sadness for a lost soul, I too feel this, however I rejoice that a murderer was stopped, even if God chose to kill the man to stop him. God is God, He gives the life and has power to end it. It is sad that this man chose to reject God and must go to hell, but mourning should be reserved for innocent life.

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    Ludicrous. There should be no rejoicing. And attributing this murder to God is blasphemous. A loony religious nut did this, not God. When a child is raped and murdered, is that also God's doing?
     
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    We learn in the book of Job that Satan needed God's permission to have the sons, daughters, & servants killed, so yes, I would say that God is in control of the actions of murderers and rapists.
     
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    God is holy and just. God does not kill innocent children nor cause others to kill innocent children. However God can cause the death of the guilty, murderers and rapest, those who hate Him. We have evidence of this from the scriptures. In 2Kings 19 you can read how the Lord told Hezekiah not to fear Sennacherib because God was going to cause Sennacherib to fall by the sword. God used Adrammelech and Sharezer, Sennacherib's own sons, to carry out the slaying.

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    How about addressing the question?
    And here is another...if believe God told you to sacrifice your son or daughter, you'd be fine in carrying out the act?
     
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    In this sense God does cause the deaths of innocent children, same as famine which He could cause to spread over the land. What I was indicating is that God does not look down on an innocent child and say in His heart 'I will cause a man to rape and kill this child', that would be evil. However, He does reserve the right and does exercise that right to give life and to take it away and no one can lay any blame at the feet of God, it is His Creation and He will always do what is just, even if we cannot understand His ways.

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