To Be or Not To Be: That is the question of James 2:5

No, we deny rather that a lost sinner is saved by inherit natural faith in and by themselves, as even that faith to get saved is due to God gifting it to us!

 

God chose us in Christ before the foundation of the World, and that election was individual and not conditioned on anything we can and would do, hence Grace!

 

God chose first to save us, and that way would be then outlined to us!

 

This view, "individual election before individual creation" is precluded by 1 Peter 2:9-10 when we were not a people before we became a people of God.

 

Deflection on display addressing the bogus view of inherit natural faith, which is not the view presented.
Note how actual discussion of actual biblical views is hindered by deflection and denial.

 

God told us that were chosen in Him, Jesus, before the foundation of the world, was God mistaken?

 

Your theology requires there to actually be "bogus " inherited faith!

 

Absolutely. Everyone has beliefs. Now before salvation one has not yet believed the gospel of grace. All knowledge, for that matter, is contingent on hearing and believing. There is absolutely not anything known by anyone, not first heard, and learned without being believed.

 

None have in them inherit "saving faith"

 

The text says "rich in faith." Nothing about the type of faith.

 

Note another change of subject, and no answer as how we could not be God's chosen people is we had been chosen individually before creation. Deflection on display

 

No quote will be forthcoming, so pay no attention to unsupported assertions.

 

You did not answer the question!

 

Where did get your saving faith from?

 

Answering questions with questions is the favorite ploy of bogus doctrine defenders. How we could not be God's chosen people if we had been chosen individually before creation? The answer of course is we were not chosen individually before creation, therefore we came into the world as not a people of God.

Really simple doctrine, supported by 1 Peter 2:9-10

 

Still waiting for an answer, rather than deflection:
Answering questions with questions is the favorite ploy of bogus doctrine defenders. How we could not be God's chosen people if we had been chosen individually before creation? The answer of course is we were not chosen individually before creation, therefore we came into the world as not a people of God.

Really simple doctrine, supported by 1 Peter 2:9-10

 

". . . Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, . . ." -- James 2:5.

". . . ουχ ο θεος εξελεξατο τους πτωχους του κοσμου
τουτου πλουσιους εν πιστει . . . ."

 

We were all born into the sin of Adam, into the fallen state of lost sinners, but still chosen by God Himself, as He chose us in Christ before we even heard of Jesus!