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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Salty, Sep 2, 2020.

  1. Salty

    Salty 20,000 Posts Club
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    Okay agent -
    In the other post - Clinton and Obama were mentioned

    So here is my question - to you Agent and to anyone else that would like to answer.

    What were the top 5 accomplishments of
    A) Mr. Clinton
    B) Mr. Obama?
     
  2. canadyjd

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    The best accomplishments of Pres CL:ton was implementing repubs Contract with America. Almost all of it. There were 10 and he signed (and took credit for) 8 or 9. They didn’t pass term limits or balanced budget amendment.

    Pres Ob:ma authorized raid to kill Os:ma bin Hidin: Only accomplishment I can think of.

    He did pass healthcare reform but I don’t consider that an accomplishment, though liberals would; plus Ir:n deal, Cl:mate accord, pull troops out of Ir:q (resulted in rise of is:s), appointed two extremely liberal justices, prevented pipeline development, placed federal lands off limits to development, implemented massive new regulations.

    Accomplishments may be in the eye of the beholder.

    peace to you
     
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  3. atpollard

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    • Committed perjury in a court of law and beat the Impeachment charges for it.
    • Appointed Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Supreme Court (while I disagree with her opinions, she has been influential).
    • Budget Surplus (economic growth policy)
    • Welfare Reform (work emphasis)
    • Moderate Democratic Party (vs. current ultra polarized parties).
     
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    • Raid on Osama bin Laden



    (All other "accomplishments" appear to have been major steps in the wrong direction.)
    • Spent US out of recession by ballooning National Debt
    • Healthcare Reform (bankrupted plan)
    • Encouraged Illegal Immigration
    • Criminalized thoughts (hate crimes acts)
    • Free Trade Agreements destroyed US Trade.
    • Premature withdrawal from Iraq (forced to return)
    • Ineffective nuclear treaty with Iran
    • Special legal rights for sexual deviancy (LGBT)
     
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  5. carpro

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    Healthcare was passed by continually lying about how it would work and how it would be paid for. In addition, it was passed over the objection of the American people with huge portions of it being unconstitutional.

    The Iran deal was illegal and benefited no one but Iran.

    The climate accord was illegal , as well. Neither were approved by the Senate.

    Fortunately , a lot of his anti business rules have been reversed to allow the economy to again expand, after he continually lowered expectations.

    The one thing that makes him such a disaster is he worsened race relations, never missing an opportunity to divide. We are reaping the dissension he sowed, while he stays on the sidelines and cheers on the rioters, the anarchists, the racists, and the marxists.
     
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  6. Scott Downey

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    Obama was very divisive. These kinds of people pull out the race card and make up stuff, and the weak minded then blame systemic racism because they drink, do drugs, commit crimes, get violent feelings, go to jail, cant find a decent job, cant get funding to buy a house, can't get a business loan, etc... they blame their problems on systemic racism which does not exist except in their minds, those thoughts were planted there by the people who stand to benefit from their votes. And now they talk about white privilege, and whiteness ideas have poisoned their minds like the nuclear family (father and mother), hard working, and being a responsible citizen.
     
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