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TOP RABBI: AMERICA IS COLLAPSING, ISRAEL MUST STEP UP AS NEW WORLD SUPERPOWER

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  1. Revmitchell

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    One of Israel’s most respected rabbis, Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu, has released a statement on the status of America as a waning world superpower and a message of hope for Israel to fill the void. Rabbi Eliyahu is the Chief Rabbi of Safed and a member of the Chief Rabbinate Council

    Regarding the outcome of the US elections, Rabbi Eliyahu explains that the schism is deeper than last week’s incident on Capitol Hill saying: “The big crisis that is currently happening in America didn’t start with the storming of Capitol Hill. It started with the Democratic party’s’ lack of confidence in Trump’s presidency expressed in fiery protests across the United States, and his being labeled in every possible derogatory manner.”

    The rabbi added that the lack of Republican trust in America’s election process also contributes to the crisis.

    “With tremendous sorrow we can recall this event as part of the process of the US descending from the stage of world history. It’s a sad moment, but it’s happening.”

    Top Rabbi: America is Collapsing, Israel must Step Up as new World Superpower
     
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    The rabbi is giving a good reason for the world to attack Israel.
     
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    US is still a world super power, but if things do get worse here, we definitely wont last as one.
    We will be consumed with self immolations.

    I was at the white house on July 17, 1976, Sat on the lawn there and watched the fourth take place, fireworks and all.
    back then there was a commonality of decency in the America I knew and had grown up in, within our circle. I met General Starry later in life who came to our wedding in 1981, he went tour church. Today I dont recognize our country anymore. it is gone. The reason is the socialist LEFT has infiltrated the schools and we have abandoned any pretense of being a Christian nation. Nations abandoning Christ is happening all over the western world, and replacing it with secular socialism, the state. It is a time a great apostasy.
    But maybe the world is showing us their true colors now.
     
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    Israel knows that America without the Conservative Christian support, is no help to Israel. And that is where we are at.

    An America run by atheistic liberals and blacks is no help to Israel.

    Israel must now abandon any hope for help from America. She must just turn to God alone. An America run by Ham is against both Shem and Japheth.

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    I think that without the Lord helping Israel, which He won't, as they are no longer, "His People", that Israel is a match against Russia or China.
     
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    Israel doesn't have just one enemy. She had one friend, the U.S. She won't be able to count on her anymore.

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    The US are very much overrated as being a "superpower". 20 years later and they still cannot sort out the mess in Afghanistan! They could not win in the Korean war, nor in Vietnam. Israel won the 6 Day War in 1967, on their own, without any help from the US!
     
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    The value to Israel for the friendship of the U.S. is not just as an ally in war. It is also as a vote in the United Nations. How many times has the U.S. stood alone for Israel? You will see that gone now also.

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    Harris' husband is Jewish!
     
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    So you fear ‘the Blacks’
     
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    are you saying that whites are not atheists or liberals? :rolleyes::eek:
     
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    We could have won all of those in a second but politicians get in the way.

    And yes Israel is still Gods people
     
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    in what way? The Church, as in born again Christians, are the "Israel of God" (Galatians 6:16), which also includes believing Jews. But the Nation of Israel is no longer "Gods people", unless you have a NT reference that I have missed?
     
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    It seems that you hold to replacement theology and that is coloring your view of scripture in a way that is beyond the intent of God.

    The phrase "Israel of God" is not a reference to the church as a whole but to Messianic Jews. That verse references two groups of people hence the use of the conjunction "and".

    In Romans 11 Paul said:

    I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

    God has not cast away His people whom He foreknew. Or do you not know what the Scripture says of Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel, saying,
    Romans 11:1-2 NKJV

    There are more promises of God toward Israel to be yet fulfilled
     
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    Nothing to do with replacement anything. This is what the Bible says, as is clear in Romans 11

    17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root of the olive tree, 18 do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you. 19 Then you will say, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” 20 That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but fear. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. 22 Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God's kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off. 23 And even they, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God has the power to graft them in again. 24 For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree.

    Only those Jews who accept Jesus as their Messiah, will be saved, there is nothing in the NT to even suggest that Israel as a nation will return to the Lord. They did not in the OT, which is why the "First Testament" was rendered "obsolete"; and since Jesus Christ Came, we have the Church, and only those who are truly born-again, are part of the New Testament. God does not "owe" the Jews anything. Jesus Christ came to His own, that is, the Jews, but they rejetced Him, as they did ultimately in the OT, which is why the Gospel went to the Gentiles (non Jews)
     
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    And your interpretation of that ignores vs. 1 and 2. What you posted in no way negates what I have said.
     
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    It's not a question of 'fear'. It's understanding God's pronouncement concerning the peoples who come from Ham. No blessing and a curse upon the deacendants. Therefore when Ham rules, all deteriorates.

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    Just wait and see.

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    No. I said 'an America run by atheist's, liberals, and blacks'.

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    So what do you see dark skinned people who are not black?
     
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