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True Contingent?

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by RodnStaff, Apr 10, 2005.

  1. RodnStaff

    RodnStaff New Member

    Mar 21, 2005
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    Hello all, I'm horrible at debate, but I'm good at observation! [​IMG]
    Just thought I would throw this out here because it seemed like a good forum to get an explanation.

    1Sa 23:10
    Then said David, O LORD God of Israel, thy servant
    hath certainly heard that Saul seeketh to come to
    Keilah, to destroy the city for my sake.
    1Sa 23:11
    Will the men of Keilah deliver me up into his hand?
    will Saul come down, as thy servant hath heard? O
    LORD God of Israel, I beseech thee, tell thy
    servant. And the LORD said, He will come down.
    1Sa 23:12
    Then said David, Will the men of Keilah deliver me
    and my men into the hand of Saul? And the LORD
    said, They will deliver thee up.
    1Sa 23:13
    Then David and his men, which were about six
    hundred, arose and departed out of Keilah, and
    went whithersoever they could go. And it was told
    Saul that David was escaped from Keilah; and he
    forbare to go forth.
    1Sa 23:14
    ΒΆ And David abode in the wilderness in strong
    holds, and remained in a mountain in the
    wilderness of Ziph. And Saul sought him every day,
    but God delivered him not into his hand.

    Here we see that God said "He will come down," but it was a contingent because it never happened. Does this fit with Calvinist doctrine? Is it possible for a Calvinist to believe in contingents?
  2. whetstone

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    Mar 22, 2005
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    God's statements were not eternal decrees but warnings. God gives similar statements throughout the rest of the Bible. If we do such a thing, there will be such a consequence. He that believeth not is condemned already and so on. I see no conflict with Calvinist doctrine in these verses. [​IMG]
  3. whatever

    whatever New Member

    Dec 7, 2004
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    That's a good question. Calvinists do believe in contingents. They are found all through the Bible, especially in the OT prophets. Jonah is a great example - "yet 40 days and Nineveh shall be destroyed", but they repented and God relented.