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Trump Caves Second Time

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Adonia, Jun 22, 2019.

  1. InTheLight

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    I certainly do. Can you tell us if the airspace the drone was shot down in was over land or over water?

    The pieces of the drone are no longer in "airspace". Where did the pieces of the drone fall? Into water? Or onto land?
     
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    Now that you understand, could you draw for us Iranian airspace over Strait of Hormuz?

    Do that and I will point the exact point the drone was shot at, and where the fragments fell.

    That’s how I get to test your understand g of the term airspace
     
  3. InTheLight

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    I'm not asking for the exact point. I understand that Iranian airspace extends over the Strait of Hormuz, which is water.

    I'm asking a simple question--did the fragments fall in water or on land?

    What's so hard about answering this question?
     
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    Water ,obviously
     
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    OK. Via satellite surveillance the US knows where the Iranians salvaged parts of the drone, if indeed they have drone parts. This means the splashdown area is known. The flight trajectory can be computed and it can be determined if the drone was violating Iranian airspace when it was shot down.

    Ultimately the splashdown area is moot, at least to the US, because the US knows where its drone was when it was shot down. Other nations with satellites over the Strait of Hormuz likely knows where the splashdown occurred and so knows where the US drone was when it hit.
     
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    Russia and Iran have provided satellite imagery of the location of the drone. The US has yet to. US loses. US refused to share its evidence for the tanker strikes other than the grainy clip. It has been less forthcoming so I don’t trust their version.

    Besides, the lame excuse for not striking is quite telling
     
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    Nothing about this post is true.
     
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    Lies
     
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    Blown-Up Oil Tanker's Insurer Says Iran Likely Attacker

    Iranian forces were likely responsible for the attacks that occurred Thursday on two tankers in the Gulf of Oman, according to a report seen by Bloomberg from DNK, the insurer of one of the ships.

    The Norwegian insurer has raised its assessment on the threat to tankers in the Persian Gulf, Strait of Hormuz and North Western Gulf of Oman to high following the incident, it said in the report. Anti-ship missiles fired from a naval asset were probably used in the attacks, it said.

    Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
     
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    You said it was. Burden of proof is on you.
     
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    Proving it was not is just as a burden
     
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    Japanese saw something and it was not a torpedo. Torpedoes don’t fly
     
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    You should actually read the article.
     
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    No explanation whatsoever as to how they arrived at their conclusion. Can quote another Iran denying it?
     
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    Iran is the largest terrorist state sponsor they have no credibility. They lead chants death to Israel and America they have not credibility. I don't care what Iran says. At least not the leadership.
     
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    Who trusts US who led a trillion dollars war in Iraq over garbage ‘intelligence’?

    Anyway, you don’t have to trust Iran, just trust solid evidence. So far there is none implicating Iran in the attacks. Wake me up when you got any.

    Ps
    Allegations are not proof
    Israel’s actions in Gaza are just as bad as Hezbollah
     
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    It wasn't garbage evidence. There have been WMD's found in Iraq and do you remember the convoys going to Syria prior to our announced invasion? What do you think was in all those trucks?

    Oh I see, you think I care if you believe it or not. Let me help you out. My life goes on no matter what you believe.

    No, but the proof the allegations are based on are.

    Yea it is always bad when someone defends themselves.:rolleyes:
     
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    There were no WMD in Iraq, no stockpiles whatsoever. The lie that Sadaam quickly moved or destroyed them is unsupported by any proof. If you could share any verifiable proof of this I will back down.

    Whatever you do with your life is your business. You can’t throw fake news around and get away unchallenged. You may sincerely believe in lies but in a public forum they will be challenged.

    Then just bring the proof the allegations are based on. That’s called evidence in other circles.

    More human life has been wasted from the US imperialism than Iran will ever accomplish in a hundred years. Terrorism is in the eyes of the beholder
     
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    And there goes your credibility.
     
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    WMDs please
     
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