Turning Mary into an adultress

AngelMom,

"Get your head out of the sand.

All we can see is your backside. "

This isn't disrespectul? Boy do you need to put a bid on that plank picker. I have not cursed anyone on this board. If I did show me where.

 

And do you see the flaw in your scenario?

You say "Rome, the desolator Prince" but Rome in this case aint the Catholic Church.

Nice try though.

 

I already did in my first statement. To be antichrist is to be opposite of Christ. How can an antichrist have salvation if they are the opposite of Christ? You stated reformers and such through the ages, so those who do not follow catholic teaching follow someone else, correct? If they follow 'reformers', they must be following antichrist as well and must have the spirit of antichrist in them. So if you are not a part of the catholic church, one must be antichrist, thus not saved.

Neal

 

Well, I am a born again christain and I don't believe that the ***** of Rev. 17 is the catholic church.
The Wh*re of rev. 17 is a city.

see-rev. 17:18-

And the woman which thou sawest is that great city ,....

It's not a church.

Not that I like the Catholic church or anything. I don't think the Lord would want us to pray to dead people or worship the mother mary. I don't think he would like to be called michael, either for that matter.
As for the antichrist, I think it's likely that he could be a member of either the catholic or prot. chuch. He might be a church leader or a pope. A beast in sheeps clothing.

I only follow Jesus.

heidi

 

Do you know what that means?

It was totally appropriate and I stand by my usage of it. I'll give you a hint. Ostrich.

You said to ME. That I (being an SDA) am VILE and that HELL would freeze over before you fellowshipped with ME (an SDA).

Now, if I said to you that all Catholics are VILE and that the earth would have to be desolate, and I and one other person is all that were left, and it was YOU, that I wouldn't fellowhip with you.....would that be crude and unkind?

You don't think calling someone vile is cursing them?

What would be then, would you have to use actual cuss words that are coined by society as cuss words in order for it to be so?

I think calling someone VILE is cursing them.

Look that word up in the dictionary.

Your attitude is reproachable. I have every right, as do the other members on this board to insist from you that you refrain from calling people names.

I am sorry if you are offended that your church is the whore, but I can't change that fact, only you can.

COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE that you receive not of her plagues.

Plank picker. That's funny. I just got that.

It must be the hair.

God Bless </font>[/QUOTE]Do I know what it means? My we're insulting today. Mighty Christian of you.

Do you know what the word curse means? I'll give you the definition.

"1. swearword: a swearword, obscenity, or blasphemous oath

Nope, I don't think viral (the word I used, not the one you put in my mouth i.e. vile) or Hell is a swearword or obscenity. I certainly wasn't making any oaths. Hell could be, but not in the context I used it (i.e. as a place).

2. evil prayer: a malevolent appeal to a supernatural being for harm to come to somebody or something, or the harm that is thought to result from this

Wasn't praying so that can't be. Didn't do any kind of an incantation, wishing harm on you.

3. source of harm: a cause of unhappiness or harm the curse of poverty

This would seem to be a lasting thing. Hardly applicable.

4. menstruation: menstruation or a menstrual period ( dated slang )

We won't go there.

5. religious ban: an ecclesiastical pronouncement of censure or excommunication

Certainly I didn't ban you from anything.

So, no AngelMom I did not curse you.

By the way, I didn't call you Vile as you said over and over above. I said SDA's were the most viral people on these boards. Look it up back a couple of pages. I spelled it wrong, it is actually virile and it means (straight from http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=virile) 2 : ENERGETIC, VIGOROUS

Have you not heard of a virilent attack. It was totally appropriate and I stand by my usage of it and my statement that SDA's attacks on the Catholic Church are the most virile and yes hell would freeze over before I would fellowship with you. So it seems that I have not cursed you and that it is you that has problems with the meaning of things. Also bearing false witness. That is a commandment you know.

Blessings
Good day.

[ March 03, 2003, 09:10 PM: Message edited by: thessalonian ]

 

Ahhh I get it, you're Catholic! That is why you are defending him.

What difference does it make whether I have as many books as you? I came to this conclusion based on The Revelation of JESUS CHRIST given to John. And a smidgen of Daniel. (visions from God). So apples and oranges aside, both messages came from God. I don't need all the books that you have to get what Daniel and John were given.

And it goes without saying that the whole of your denomination stands on this principle. Or rather how the POPE and church fathers read it.

Yes it does. And I am hardly alone in my opinion.

Yes it does. In more than one place.

I am pretty sure that the people who teach you what to believe about Revelation is what makes your interpretation different.

That doesn't suprise me. Half of it is about the Catholic Church so it would make plenty of sense for the Catholic Church to disclude it. What made them change their minds?

The Lifeway Christian Bookstore on Forsythe Ave, in Monroe, LA. You want the phone number?

Why thank you, that is very generous of you.

Actually I don't think it would be okay for me to be offensive and insulting. You show me where my behavior was like Thessalonians and I will apologize. I have NEVER spoken to someone like that on this or any other board.

My comments about the RCC are about the RCC, not people. I do not call people names, like VILE, and tell people that HELL would have to freeze over before I would fellowship with them.

Nope, that day already came, it was about 3 years ago, when I finally submitted my heart and mind to Christ, and the Holy Spirit came inside me and led me into ALL truth.

Would you be brave enough to pray directly to the Father and ask Him to send the Holy Spirit through Jesus to guide you into all TRUTH?

Or are you too afraid that it would prove your Church false?

Think about that.

God Bless </font>[/QUOTE]You know it's rather offensive to imply I am defending Thess because he is Catholic....he's a big boy, doesn't need my help. The only reason I am even posting to you is your crack about the whore.

Interesting....so you think that Revelation says it is a Church....did your Church re-write the Bible? I can't find that passage anywhere.

There are many denominations who will disagree with you about what the whore is.

You can't really use the fact that I believe what my Church teaches as some kind of weak point...afterall you do the same. FYI I was not raised Catholic.

Do you think the Bible fell out of the sky? If you think the Catholic Church is the whore...then why do you accept a Bible that the Church was instrumental in assembling? Lord have mercy just think of how corrupted the Bible must be!

You seem to be very mis-informed about Catholics. I pray directly to the Father all the time. Perhaps you should think on that one.

My Church isn't false...God promised the gates of hell would not prevail and the Bible says that we would be persecuted in His name.

You, it seems, are just one of the persecutors.


LaRae

 

Ok everyone take a breather. We are all here to share and learn.

This is the question:

Lets reword it a little so it is not attacking anyone and everyone can join in without always feeling like they are on the defense.

The idea that Mary is the Spouse of the Holy Spirit, Is this in the scriptures? Is this just based on some Man's interpretation of doctrine, or God given doctrine? Using scripture show how you arrive at your answer.

Thank you. No more attacks.

Sherrie

 

Oh my! Hyocrit am I. Guilty as charged. Remeber I am selling the plank picker to you so I can upgrade. That was definitely a virile post of the sort that I was talking about when I made that statement that got you in such a tizzy AngelMom.

[ March 03, 2003, 10:32 PM: Message edited by: thessalonian ]

 

Thanks for the good advise Sherrie, I hope we can all follow it. Also thanks to whoever clicked on the moderator alert button. I am enjoying looking in on this forum which is new to me but it is so fast and furious I will really appreciate any help I can get in keeping the peace. Having tuned in late I don't claim to know who is right and who is wrong but I can see several who should be ashamed of the things they have said. I have two suggestions. #1 follow one of the Webmasters simple posting rules which states that we must show grace to other posters and no personal attacks will be permitted and #2 To save bandwidth space please don't post an entire quote unless you plan to speak to each point someone has posted, this also will help a newcomer like myself cut thru all the fluff and concentrate on who is causing the trouble. I would also like to add one of my favorite quotes from the infamous Rodney King "why can't we all get along"

Thanks for your time and God Bless
Murph

 

AngelMom,

Just looked at your bio so I took out the taking angel out of your name stuff in the above post. You do have 3 very angelic looking boys. I will say that for you.

 

"HERE is wisdom. The woman SITS on 7 mountains. Any high school graduate can tell you what city sits on 7 hills. Rome."

There are 7 mountains in Rome. Gee I thought Rome was on 7 hills. No mater, Vatican City is not a part of Rome as it is it's own nation and does not sit on any of the 7 hills of Rome, but is on it's own hill. The hill the Vatican sits on is across the Tiber from the seven hills of Rome so unforutantely it does not fit this one. I would discuss more of the above but if one does not fit one then what is the point since the whole interpruation is false. It's kind of an all or nothing thing.

[ March 03, 2003, 10:51 PM: Message edited by: thessalonian ]