UFOs

These UFO threads "crop up" about as often as UFO's do!!

Simple logic will explain away the idea that we are being "visited upon" by so extratrestrial beings from another distant planet

1. Distance from planet to planet----if they visited from any other planet other than Mars----they'd die of old age before they arrived at "Distination Earth!"

2. How would any ET flying in his/her craft account for Earth's atmosphere upon entry?? The idiot flying the craft would have to know----"Good Golly!! Somethin' ain't right here!!! Its gotten extremely hot on my outer hull!! Mayday!! Mayday!!"

3. Suppose the ET is successful in penetrating Earth's atmosphere without melting his craft like butter in a fryin' pan----suppose he/she WERE successful in landing----heck----he doesn't even have to land---maybe its one of those "Fly by's"-----but however---he IS in the Earth's atmosphere----and now he's fixin' to hit his craft's main "Thruster"----how does he go about escaping Earth's Gravitational pull without rippin' his craft apart??

 

well, good golly, LOL

 

Very flawed. Since "they" have not been detected in 'our' solar system, "they" would surely have ultimately come from a distant star system. If so, then "they" are probably the descendents of those who began to explore the universe. But even if we are wrong and there IS another extraterrestrial civilization in the solar system, even at our technology it would only take a few years to reach us, no matter which other planet they are from.

Now come on! If we can build space shuttles that can handle re-entry and land intact, certainly a space-faring civilzation could. And even more could they detect from afar what kind of atmosphere we have on earth, and therefore what they need to make a landilng here-- IF that would be their objective, which is doubtful, as they could surely detect radio communications from us, meaning we are well beyond the primitive stage of development, which could mean we are capable of technological warfare.

Another thing: As you say "flying his/her craft..." you seem under an assumption "they" would be like us-- 2 sexes, a craft desinged for beings of our general size. Neither may be the case. There may be one sex (if "their" civilization has any such thing as sex) or multiple sexes. And "they" could be very different in size and structure, such as to where "their" craft is very long and thin, like a pole, or very small, which would greatly reduce atmospheric friction, depending on method(s) of propulsion.

Do you now not that a "space plane" is very possible? And why do you assume such a spacefaring being would not have checked, calculated, and observed to where it would know it had the capabilities to return to space if it entered our gravitational influence and atmosphere?

With all this said, Do I believe there are any extraterrestrial beings and/or UFO's from distant civilizations hovering around? No. But the reason is because there is no evidence of such, and there is and has been a vastness of fraud, illusions, and ridiculous wishful thinking that misinfluences the perceptions of those who 'see something.'

 

Would G.I. Barber be one of those? http://www.sharperiron.org/downloads/Podcasts/hairology.mp3

 

Upper G.I. ?? Do you know if he gives out upper GI tracts?

 

Well---for starters---it took NASA engineers years and years to research this kind of stuff---just to get man to the moon and back

I mean---whats the alien gonna do, Alcott?? What means would he have to "test fire" his rocket motors and trajectory stuff to get the right angle on the atmosphere for entry---I mean, Star Wars, Star Trek, Flash Gordan, among others--makes launching probes and junk like that look easy---what about his fuel, Alcott---seems like as smart as the alien can be to produce such a space craft--he'd be smart enough to land the thing on the East lawn of the White house-----hang on----the White House has already been visited upon, I almost forgot---Bill and Hillary are from outer space!!!!!!:laugh: :laugh: How would you like to be married to her???---get involved in her family???--visit Hillary's momma every now and then??? I don't think you could get me to "pucker up" to her even if you held a machine gun on me!!!!

 

When we're raptured, they'll say we were all taken away by a UFO with an engine that sounded like trumpets blowing!! :laugh:

 

Ezekiel 1:
4] And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.
[5] Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man.
[6] And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings.
[7] And their feet were straight feet; and the sole of their feet was like the sole of a calf's foot: and they sparkled like the colour of burnished brass.
[8] And they had the hands of a man under their wings on their four sides; and they four had their faces and their wings.
[9] Their wings were joined one to another; they turned not when they went; they went every one straight forward.
[10] As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.
[11] Thus were their faces: and their wings were stretched upward; two wings of every one were joined one to another, and two covered their bodies.
[12] And they went every one straight forward: whither the spirit was to go, they went; and they turned not when they went.
[13] As for the likeness of the living creatures, their appearance was like burning coals of fire, and like the appearance of lamps: it went up and down among the living creatures; and the fire was bright, and out of the fire went forth lightning.
[14] And the living creatures ran and returned as the appearance of a flash of lightning.
[15] Now as I beheld the living creatures, behold one wheel upon the earth by the living creatures, with his four faces.
[16] The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel.
[17] When they went, they went upon their four sides: and they turned not when they went.
[18] As for their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings were full of eyes round about them four.
[19] And when the living creatures went, the wheels went by them: and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up.
[20] Whithersoever the spirit was to go, they went, thither was their spirit to go; and the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.
[21] When those went, these went; and when those stood, these stood; and when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.
[22] And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above.
[23] And under the firmament were their wings straight, the one toward the other: every one had two, which covered on this side, and every one had two, which covered on that side, their bodies.
[24] And when they went, I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters, as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host: when they stood, they let down their wings.
[25] And there was a voice from the firmament that was over their heads, when they stood, and had let down their wings.
[26] And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it.
[27] And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about.
[28] As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake.


WOW!!!!!

 

Whatever 'they' breath, eat, drink, along with fuel would have to be transported also, fuel for this length of trip just isn't happening. We'd have to make too many way out there guesses just to get them here. Just like decendats of those who first explored the universe, what? where do we get this from?

Intry into our atmosphere, or the atmosphere of any other planet is different. Without kowledge of this planet they'd have only 1 try to get it right, which probably isn't going to work on first try.

It just doesn't work.

 

When you post scripture without telling us why, how your using it, we have no idea what you mean.

 

Does that sound like a UFO ??? (from God, of course)

Wheels, colors, wings, fire....etc.

 

I don't kow, what does God say they are. UFO's are not living creatures.

 

Personally I don't believe we ever went to the moon. There are too many coincidences involving that story. I think it was a Cold War lie. Do some searches on "moon landing hoax" and do some serious reading, it just doesn't make any sense. The moon is an incredible distance away, we just didn't have the technology to make it there and back. Even one of the main astronauts won't talk about it to this day and will bust out in tears if somebody asks him if it was a hoax. I forget his name. I could go on and on, but basically it was pretty much impossible back then. Why haven't we been back? The whole thing was made up.


Also, I might add, and this applies to several of Donna's posts... all of the doubters, including this post, always puts things into the perspective of our current technology, it's always compared to what we can do now. I mean, like this post, saying none of this is possible because it took NASA years and years. How long do you think any of our technology to do anything cool has been around? 100, 150 years at the very most. If we keep advancing at the rate that we have been in the last 100 years, what do you think would be possible 1,000 or even 5,000 years from now??? We would have capabilities that you cannot even imagine right now. We will look back upon this moment in time and laugh. So with that in mind, why is it so incomprehensible that there may be a civilization that is more advanced than us due to a massive head start that has capabilities far beyond anything that we have? Most of the doubters have the theory that the trip is just too far, but, what if Albert Einstein's theories about wormholes are real??? All of these arguments about "it's just too far" may not hold any water if these were real and somebody figured out how to use them.

 

Two words come to mind in answer to your two paragraphs.

pp1. Kooky
pp2. Bible


(edit) Ok. that was not fair to say kooky w/o actually looking on the web for your proof. One thing most of these conspiracy nut-jobs overlook is the fact that if this were a hoax then Nasa would have had to have the co-operation of HUNDREDS of scientists for the last 30+ years. I fail to grasp how a government agency can get HUNDREDS of people to co-operate in a big lie without ONE person blowing the cover. In addition, this happened during the peak of the cold war. Both China and USSR hated us and would have blown the whistle if they had uncovered the hoax. The simple matter of monitoring the radio signals FROM the moon would have given the hoax away, yet both China and USSR did not expose it. If even your enemies agree with you then........

 

My father, who worked at RCA Astro at the time, worked on one of the cameras that went to the moon. Either it was real, or they wasted a lot of time and effort dreaming up all the realistic problems you'd have to solve to get a camera on the moon and still have it work.

 

Two words just came to my mind when I read your post too, but I'll refrain from sharing.


As for the moon hoax, why didn't we offer any proof? We could have easily lighted a magnesium flare so that we could see it from earth. Why didn't we? The only proof we have is our own photographs. Nothing else.

What about all of the strange deaths of all of the key people involved in the moon landing shortly after the fact? Were all of these simple coincidences?

Why did we send an incredible amount of corn over to Russia immediately afterwards even though we were in the middle of the Cold War? Was it a payoff to keep their mouths shut? Maybe another coincidence?

Why is all of the original data involving the landing missing? This was supposedly the biggest event of the century, possibly ever. How could so much data just disappear? The original tapes disappeared too. Blueprints of most everything are missing. All of this highly important stuff just POOF vanishes... coincidence? It's not like they said "we have them, but they're classified". No, they're GONE.


This is just the tip of the iceberg. There is all kinds of crazy things along those lines. All of it happening all together... coincidence? I highly doubt it.

 

Yet you did not address the simplest issue.
HOW do you keep HUNDREDS of people perpetrating a lie for 30+ years?
Surely you are not so naive to think that NASA has killed them all are you?
And what about the 800# of rocks which are still extant and scattered around the world for all to see?
And what about.......? Oh never mind. This all smacks of the flat earth society.

 

While investigating the 'hoax" my computer SUDDENLY went black. I was on a "hoax" website andmy computer just SHUT DOWN!!

OOOOOOOOOOOOh!

They are after me! Yiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!

 

(Passes out tinfoil hats...)

 

I just want to know if G.I. Barber is a UFO or is on a UFO or in a UFO, and if his hair still has the combover if he is in space with no gravity?