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Ukraine shelling nuclear plant, NY Times admits

Van

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asterisktom

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Sounds like an unreliable source.
Which source is unreliable? My link? Do you deny that the nuclear plant is being bombed?

The article you linked above is a different topic. Please don't derail the OP.
 

Van

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Which source is unreliable? My link? Do you deny that the nuclear plant is being bombed?

The article you linked above is a different topic. Please don't derail the OP.
Good grief, did I deny or confirm who had caused damage to the plant or associated power lines? Nope.
The author of the your article seems unreliable.
 

AustinC

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The only thing I could find in the archive NYTimes that the southpaw.com said was this...

"Eventually, Ukrainian officials believe their long-term success requires progress on the original goals in the discarded strategy, including recapturing the nuclear power plant in Zaporizhzhia, cutting off Russian forces in Mariupol and pushing Russian forces in Kherson back across the Dnipro River, American officials said.
Russia has been weakened. By failing to detect Ukraine’s buildup around Kharkiv, the Russian military has demonstrated incompetence and shown that it lacks solid intelligence. Its command and control have been decimated and it is having trouble supplying its troops, giving Ukraine an opening in the coming weeks, U.S. officials said."


I'm not sure how this translates into Ukraine is bombing the nuclear power plant.

Here's a simple solution:
Putin leaves Ukraine alone and spends the rest of his life fishing in an unnamed lake in Siberia.
 

Conan

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The only thing I could find in the archive NYTimes that the southpaw.com said was this...

"Eventually, Ukrainian officials believe their long-term success requires progress on the original goals in the discarded strategy, including recapturing the nuclear power plant in Zaporizhzhia, cutting off Russian forces in Mariupol and pushing Russian forces in Kherson back across the Dnipro River, American officials said.
Russia has been weakened. By failing to detect Ukraine’s buildup around Kharkiv, the Russian military has demonstrated incompetence and shown that it lacks solid intelligence. Its command and control have been decimated and it is having trouble supplying its troops, giving Ukraine an opening in the coming weeks, U.S. officials said."


I'm not sure how this translates into Ukraine is bombing the nuclear power plant.

Here's a simple solution:
Putin leaves Ukraine alone and spends the rest of his life fishing in an unnamed lake in Siberia.
A far better response would be we leave ukraine alone. We quit helping nazis.

 

AustinC

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A far better response would be we leave ukraine alone. We quit helping nazis.

A far better thing would be to stop looking for conspiracies in the dark web and imaging they were true.
Somehow, you want us to believe that an entire nation and their leaders are secretly Nazi's and they dominate Ukraine.

Sir, I have some ocean front property in New Mexico to sell you. It's a great deal.
 

JonC

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From the NY Times article:

Ukraine has sought to answer the constant shelling from the plant with precise counterattacks. On July 22, for instance, Ukraine’s military intelligence agency reported a strike with a kamikaze drone that blew up an antiaircraft installation and a Grad rocket launcher and that killed soldiers in a tent camp about 150 yards from a reactor.
 

Conan

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It has been clearly established that Russia is not shelling it's own captured nuclear plant. The Ukrainians have been shelling it the whole time.
 

Conan

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A far better thing would be to stop looking for conspiracies in the dark web and imaging they were true.
Somehow, you want us to believe that an entire nation and their leaders are secretly Nazi's and they dominate Ukraine.

Sir, I have some ocean front property in New Mexico to sell you. It's a great deal.
Watch the video, and I'll listen to your sales pitch.
 

asterisktom

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The only thing I could find in the archive NYTimes that the southpaw.com said was this...

"Eventually, Ukrainian officials believe their long-term success requires progress on the original goals in the discarded strategy, including recapturing the nuclear power plant in Zaporizhzhia, cutting off Russian forces in Mariupol and pushing Russian forces in Kherson back across the Dnipro River, American officials said.
Russia has been weakened. By failing to detect Ukraine’s buildup around Kharkiv, the Russian military has demonstrated incompetence and shown that it lacks solid intelligence. Its command and control have been decimated and it is having trouble supplying its troops, giving Ukraine an opening in the coming weeks, U.S. officials said."


I'm not sure how this translates into Ukraine is bombing the nuclear power plant.

Here's a simple solution:
Putin leaves Ukraine alone and spends the rest of his life fishing in an unnamed lake in Siberia.
The solution would have been for the Kiev government to honor the promises they made in the Minsk Accords in 2014.
 

asterisktom

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A far better thing would be to stop looking for conspiracies in the dark web and imaging they were true.
Somehow, you want us to believe that an entire nation and their leaders are secretly Nazi's and they dominate Ukraine.

Sir, I have some ocean front property in New Mexico to sell you. It's a great deal.

The propaganda from Kiev and our government has pretty much blinded you.
 

Conan

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Exactly why would I watch a bogus video from a paranoid schizophrenic?
So the Lord can open your eyes. It involves a 12 year old girl who was put on the Ukrainian death list. Of course she is afraid. There are American citizens on that list, funded by our goverment.
 
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