"...under God..." in the Pledge of Allegiance

I can remember that saying or not saying the pledge had nothing to do with the passion with which I love this country.

Wouldn't it mean more if only those who truly thought it an honor to recite said it instead of something to do before math and history?

 

If saying the Pledge (and praying in school) is so vital for a moral society, then the 60's should have been laden with patriotism and morality.

 

Marcia,

Please be more specific on which part of the 60's you're talking about. Before or after prayer and the Bible was being tossed out of schools? If you believe the present is any more laden with patriotism and morality than the late 50's, we might have something to debate.

Thanks.

BTW, it's great to "meet" you here. Though you've got a lot more posts than me I haven't seen you much on BB.

 

CYBERDOVE,

If a student does not wish to say "one nation under GOD", then just don.t say it! Why should the rest who have no problem with it have to conform to their wishes? When I was in elementary school there was a Jehovah witness girl who would go and stand in the hallway every morning just before the pledge was said and reentered when the pledge was finished, when we kids asked her why she did this, she explained that it was against her religion. The girl's explaination was accepted and we went thru elemantary school together without incident. This is a beloved tradition, it tears me up to see it go. I remember when we prayed every morning, then they stopped us, I was confused why this had happened, it was a refreshing and beautiful way for us kids to start the day. things have gone downhill every since!

We too had a friend in junior high who was a JW. He remained seated for the Pledge. We too asked why, he explained it, and no one shunned him; in fact, I feel fortunate that I was able to count him as a friend in school, and he had lots of other friends.


Marcia,

I don't think that Cyberdove is saying that the Pledge is "vital for a moral society" in the sense that things will fall apart without it, but I firmly believe that doing away with it is a sign, another symptom of how far things have gone downhill in the disintegration of morality and patriotism in our country.

 

Our children do not hold to the patriotism that we grew up with. This can be traced back to removing God from our schools and the teaching of relativism instead of absolute truths.

I am proud to say that our daughter has the respect of nation that my wife and I grew up with. We taught her from the get-go to love her country, no matter what.

SHe (my daughter) is now 17, a senior in high school, and has just joined the Navy's Delayed Entry Program. She will go in on August 2nd next year, after graduation. She is going to be a nuclear engineer, and we couldn't be more proud.

One nation, under God.

God bless America!

In Christ,
Trotter

 

Are you sure she is going to be a nuclear engineer or a nuclear reactor operator? There is a huge difference. I was interested in a nuclear program in the Navy many years ago and it was a nuclear reactor operator.

 

It's all nuclear engineer now.

She scored 93 on the ASVAB, and every branch of the military was falling all over themselves to contact her. We found out that on 2% of America could qualify to be a nuke. Plus, she nailed 61 out of 80 in the math test she had to take when she joined (test is only for the nuke program, and requires 50... half flunk).

Nukes only go on aircraft carriers and subs. Since females are not allowed on subs, she gets a carrier. We won't know which until about 2 or 3 months before she finishes her schooling, about two years after she goes in.

In Christ,
Trotter