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US has been adding non-pneumonia deaths to inflate Covid totals

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Calminian, Sep 26, 2020.

  1. Calminian

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    Thanks.

    Another lie is that the tests give a high rate of false positives. Because of the inaccurate tests, we can never reach zero cases until a better test is found:

    Problems with test accuracy are likely to be more of an issue globally. The current US Centers for Disease Control test kits can generate up to 30 per cent false positives even in their best laboratories. Highly accurate tests can prove costly – more than £100 per test. So, we shouldn’t be surprised that in poorer countries, highly questionable cheaper alternative tests, which cost less than £3, have been distributed and used. A recent BMJ review reported that the specificity of PCR tests could be as low as 95 per cent, as PCR test performance can be much worse in low prevalence community settings. This would mean that, in our hypothetical of 10,000 tests, we’d have 500 false positives amongst the eight genuine positives. So the hundreds of false-positive Covid-19 results would dwarf the genuine results – meaning an apparent surge in infections that is not followed by a corresponding surge in hospital admissions or deaths.

    At very low prevalence, the proportion of people with infection falls and the numbers of falsely misdiagnosed increases. If Covid-19 completely disappears, then of our 10,000, no one will be infected. If you have followed the reasoning so far, you will have worked out this means that ten people would still be wrongly diagnosed as positive and the official data would show a national Covid-19 prevalence of 0.1 per cent. This is why understanding the accuracy of tests in the population that they are applied to matters: going off current testing practices and results, Covid-19 might never be shown to disappear.

    Professor Carl Heneghan is director of Oxford’s Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine.

    How many Covid diagnoses are false positives? | The Spectator
     
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    I work in the field of Cardiology.
    The idea that Covid-19 only kills people through pneumonia is simply wrong thinking.
    Covid is a multiple system killer, pulmonary, renal, cardiac, even neurological systems are attacked.

    That being said, trauma is not one of those ways it kills.

    Rob
     
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    I have a very good doctor but I cancelled my last appointment because the news has been out long before this Oxford professor published it that the tests are wildly inaccurate. Once the government gets your name, it is almost impossible to prove that you are not sick.

    Indianapolis wants to take your temperature before you enter a building. I haven't been to any sort of restaurant since this started. A lot of them are out of business forever. I only go to the pharmacy, the grocery stores, the barber, and once to Sam's Club. I pump my gas without going inside the filling station. I haven't bought anything online either except 2 DVDs.

    Everyone hates the masks. No one wears them properly--that is they leave their noses uncovered as if droplets are not exhaled. No one has an N95 mask.

    I am not the only one who cannot afford to go to a doctor or dentist. Everyone says this is all a lie.
     
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    The dreaded below-the-losers. They're everywhere!

    Then there's the complete opposite. I saw a woman a couple days ago riding a bike, outdoors, with a full mask on correctly. I always wondering why people do wear masks outside. Then I noticed she wasn't wearing a helmet. Think about that.
     
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    A hippie.
     
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    The reason thar the numbers are no good is that the cheap test has a high rate of error--around 30% error rate. We need to stop testing people who have no symptoms.
     
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